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[Loan Watch Report] 18.01-24.01
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| Name | Club | Apps: starts (from the bench) | Minutes played | Goals | Assists | Clean sheets (GK only) | Note |
| Matej Kovar | Swindon Town (League One) | 21 (0) | 1890 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Loan ended: recalled back to Man Utd |
| Joel Pereira | Huddersfield Town (Championship) | 1 (0) | 90 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Jacob Carney | Brighouse Town (Northern Premier League) | 4 (0) | 360 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Loan ended |
| Jacob Carney | Portadown FC (NIFL Premiership) | 0 (0) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Max Taylor | Kidderminster Harriers (National League North) | 10 (0) | 841 | 1 | 0 | - | League suspended until February 1st |
| Di'Shon Bernard | Salford City (League Two) | 14 (1) | 1322 | 2 | 2 | - | |
| Diogo Dalot | AC Milan (Serie A) | 11 (4) | 1077 | 1 | 1 | - | |
| Ethan Laird | MK Dons (League One) | 2 (1) | 210 | 0 | 1 | - | |
| James Garner | Watford (Championship) | 13 (8) | 1248 | 0 | 1 | - | |
| Dylan Levitt | Charlton Athletic (League One) | 5 (0) | 386 | 0 | 0 | - | Loan ended: recalled back to Man Utd |
| Aliou Traore | SM Caen (Ligue 2) | 4 (10) | 531 | 0 | 0 | - | |
| Andreas Pereira | SS Lazio (Serie A) | 3 (14) | 478 | 1 | 1 | - | |
| Max Haygarth | Brentford B (-) | 7 (4) | 628 | 3 | 0 | - | Loan ended: moved to Brentford on a permanent deal |
| Tahith Chong | Werder Bremen (Bundesliga) | 5 (10) | 534 | 1 | 2 | - | |
| Amad Diallo | Atalanta (Serie A) | 0 (2) | 41 | 0 | 0 | - | Permanent deal to join Manchester United |
Diogo Dalot (AC Milan)
Played 90 minutes in 2:0 win against Cagliari in Serie A. Was unused substitute in 0:3 loss against Atalanta BC in Serie A. Was selected to Serie A WhoScored Team of the Week.
Selected highlights:
Individual highlights vs Cagliari
WhoScored.com rating vs Cagliari: 8.1/10 (team average: 7.08) (3rd highest rating on the pitch)
Stats vs Cagliari:
Shots (on target): 2 (1)
Possession: 4.8%
Touches: 72
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 39/46 (85%)
Key passes: 0
Dribbles won/Dribbles attempted (success %): 2/3 (67%) (joint most dribbles won on the pitch)
Dribbled past: 1
Aerials won/Aerial attempted (success %): 2/2 (100%)
Tackles won/Tackles attempted (success %): 4/5 (80%) (most tackles won on the pitch)
Clearances: 4 (joint most clearances on the pitch)
Interceptions: 4 (joint most clearances on the pitch)
Corners (accurate %): 2 (100%)
Dispossessed: 0
Errors: 0
Fouls: 4 (most fouls on the pitch)
Offsides: 1
Fans' opinion after game vs Cagliari:
“- Dalot: Meh. He's ... "OK *shrug" 85% of the time, 15% of the time he tries to go forward and attack. But the difference between him and Theo seems to be, when Theo plays, his teammates just know he's going to bomb up and down like mad the whole time; that energy rubs off and the rest is also forced to go forward. Dalot by being rather passive in the majority of the time, doesn't spark this energy to go forward for the rest of the team.”* ~Nickenator85 on /ACMilan
“2 seasons ago this current Dalot would be our best fullback, now we're spoilt with Theo, Calabria and soon Kalulu. He's decent, but nothing spectacular in comparison” ~Gaverini on /ACMilan
“Dalot was inconsistent, we're used to the best left-back in the world and it's obvious that the Portuguese can't be at that level.” ~Lambro on AC Milan Forum
“I don't think he's performing bad as people make it out to be. Clearly being right-footed playing on the left is hindering him. All season we've been funneling our attacks through Theo so it's almost like a baptism of fire for the team to adapt to Dalot who'll have to take that extra second to cut inside.” ~fray on The Red&Black Forums
“5/10. Not a convincing performance. Is he an AC Milan player? As a left-back he seems to struggle and not just a little. In the end, when Conti came on, he was advanced to midfield and the outcome seemed to be better.” ~@RedellePagelle on Twitter
Tahith Chong (Werder Bremen)
Was unused substitute in 0:1 loss against Borussia Moenchengladbach in Bundesliga. Was unused substitute in 4:1 win against Hertha Berlin in Bundesliga.
James Garner (Watford)
Was unused substitute in 1:0 win against Barnsley in Championship. Was unused substitute in 2:1 win against Stoke City in Championship.
Ethan Laird (MK Dons)
Played 57 minutes and got an assist in 3:1 win against Fleetwood Town in League One. He has been selected to League One Team of the Week.
Selected highlights:
Assist
WhoScored.com rating: 7.7/10 (team average: 6.91) (3rd best rating for MK Dons)
Stats:
Shots (on target): 1 (0)
Possession: 1.6% (joint least possession on the pitch)
Touches: 27 (3rd least touches on the pitch)
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 8/13 (62%) (3rd worst passing accuracy for MK Dons)
Key passes: 1
Dribbles won/Dribbles attempted (success %): 1/2 (50%)
Dribbled past: 0
Aerials won/Aerial attempted (success %): 2/2 (100%)
Tackles won/Tackles attempted (success %): 2/2 (100%)
Clearances: 0
Interceptions: 1
Dispossessed: 2
Errors: 0
Fouls: 3
Offsides: 0
Russell Martin (MK Dons manager): "[Ethan Laird getting kicked a lot and coming off?] Yeah, I think he's just getting used to life in League One. I'm sure he will be fine. But I was pleased, really pleased with him. We need to get some work into Ethan so that he understands fully what we're doing, but he shown real glimpses of what he's about. So yeah, I've been pleased with Ethan and he's got a lot of improvements to make as well."
Fans' opinion:
“Ethan Laird is absolutely unreal. Too good for league one. Bossing it on the right so far tonight, got an assist too” ~@KieronDay03 on Twitter
“Unreal. Is it me though or do you sometimes watch him go in to defend and initially he’s slow and then shows he has she acceleration and you think why didn’t you just get there quicker from the statt.... dons it a few times tonight.” ~@pdmkd on Twitter
“Laird is my new God. All Hail!” ~keyser soze on The Concrete Roundabout Forum
“Laird has a lot of swagger and a more natural option on the wing.” ~cornerdon26 on The Concrete Roundabout Forum
“Thought the defence looked shaky second half once Ethan laird came off” ~Donsduck on The Concrete Roundabout Forum
Jacob Carney (Portadown FC)
Matthew Tipton (Portadown FC manager): "The goalkeeper position is so important, if the foundation is right then everything else works better - defenders can move higher up the pitch and the attacking players get the ball in better positions to hurt the opposition, with the overall play a lot sharper. The distribution is vital and that can be having a goalkeeper comfortable with the ball at his feet playing it out from the back or having the speed of thought to identify opportunities playing it upfield. We know what Gareth can bring given his Irish League experience but Jacob has come as a 19-year-old on loan from Manchester United and settled really well, looking very sharp. Both goalkeepers are working hard and have adjusted to our training and gameplan.”
Joel Pereira (Huddersfield Town)
Was unused substitute in 0:1 loss against Millwall in Championship.
Aliou Traore (SM Caen)
Came on from the bench and played 31 minutes in 3:1 win against EA Guingamp in Coupe de France. Was not selected in matchday squad in 1:2 loss against Rodez AF in Ligue 2.
Andreas Pereira (SS Lazio)
Played 59 minutes and got assist in 2:1 win against Parma in Coppa Italia. Was unused substitute in 2:1 win against Sassuolo in Serie A.
Selected highlights:
Assist vs Parma
Good through ball resulting in a chance for Lazio
Corner followed by a good scoring chance that hit the post
SofaScore.com rating vs Parma: 7.0/10 (team average: 6.81)
Stats vs Parma:
Shots (on target): 1 (0)
Hit woodwork: 1
Big chances missed: 1
Touches: 37
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 13/17 (76%) (worst passing accuracy for Lazio)
Key passes: 3 (most key passes for Lazio)
Big chances created: 2
Dribbles won/Dribbles attempted (success %): 1/4 (25%)
Dribbled past: 0
Aerials: 0
Tackles: 0
Clearances: 0
Interceptions: 0
Corners (accurate %):
Fouls: 0
Offsides: 0
Fans' opinion after game vs Parma:
“I was sorry to see him go off so early, he wasn't playing great but he wasn't that bad either. I still think his role is as a midfielder and not as a second striker, I'd try him there from the start with Sassuolo. It's true that he's a bit too fond of the ball, but I don't see him in the middle of the pitch as a second striker. He's a very technical player, the kind who has to touch lots of balls to make an impact.” ~Stock on SS Lazio Forum
“It's a shame about Pereira, he could have played a bit more because he has unquestionable quality, although I don't see him as a replacement for Correa but more as a replacement for Luis Alberto.” ~@GladiatorFabry on Twitter
“Would really like for him to be a part of this team. Both parties want to stay together so I expect United to get a fee for him regardless of what the price is. Lazio and United usually have good business together so I expect permanent move at the end of the season.” ~TheSoccerguy124 on /soccer
“For me, at this moment Pereira in midfield you can't put him. Not along with one of Milinkovic or Luis. Tactically he struggles so much.” ~HummingBard on Lazio.net
“Andreas Pereira a player of the highest calibre.” ~Saymyname on Lazio.net
Di'Shon Bernard (Salford City)
Played 90 minutes in 2:2 draw against Harrogate Town in League Two.
Selected highlights:
Error leading to goal
Wonderful long ball pass
Poor marking in the box which leads to a chance for Harrogate Town
WhoScored.com rating: 5.5/10 (team average: 6.49) (worst rating on the pitch)
Stats:
Shots: 0
Possession: 6.2% (2nd most possession for Salford City)
Touches: 63 (2nd most touches for Salford City)
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 41/56 (73%)
Key passes: 0
Dribbles: 0
Dribbled past: 0
Aerials won/Aerial attempted (success %): 4/8 (50%) (joint most aerials won for Salford City)
Tackles won/Tackles attempted (success %): 1/1 (100%)
Clearances: 5 (most clearances for Salford City)
Interceptions: 1
Dispossessed: 0
Errors: 1 (most errors on the pitch)
Fouls: 3 (joint most fouls on the pitch)
Next up
January 26th:
At 7 PM Garner's Watford plays Millwall and Joel's Huddersfield Town plays Bristol City in the Championship. Laird's MK Dons play Charlton Athletic in League One. Bernard's Salford City plays Cambridge United in League Two.
At 7:45 PM Carney's Portadown FC plays Crusaders in NIFL Premiership.
January 27th:
At 5 PM Dalot's AC Milan plays Inter Milan in Coppa Italia.
January 30th:
At 2 PM Dalot's AC Milan plays Bologna in Serie A.
At 2:30 PM Chong's Werder Bremen play Schalke 04 in the Bundesliga.
At 3 PM Joel's Huddersfield Town plays Stoke City in the Championship. Laird's MK Dons play AFC Wimbledon in League One. Bernard's Salford City plays Oldham Athletic in League Two. Carney's Portadown FC plays Warrenpoint Town in NIFL Premiership.
At 6 PM Traore's SM Caen plays FC Chambly in Ligue 2.
January 31st:
At 2 PM Andreas' SS Lazio plays Atalanta in Serie A.
*All times are GMT.
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Pre-Match thread, Fulham vs Liverpool, 13/12/2020: KO 16:30
Pre-Match thread, Fulham vs Liverpool
Premier League
Venue:
Craven Cottage Referee: Andre Marriner.
Assistants: Scott Ledger, Simon Long.
Fourth official: Keith Stroud.
VAR: Lee Mason.
Assistant VAR: James Mainwaring.
Where to watch Team news: - Klopp has confirmed that Alisson Becker should be available to return this weekend, having missed the last three games through injury.
- Caoimhin Kelleher has performed admirably in his absence but will drop straight back to the bench if the Brazilian comes through his return to training on Friday unscathed.
- Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain could also be in line for his first appearance of the season, although that is likely to come from the bench if Klopp deems the midfielder ready in time for Sunday.
- Diogo Jota and Kostas Tsimikas both picked up knocks in midweek that will need to be assessed ahead of this match, while Thiago Alcantara, James Milner, Xherdan Shaqiri, Virgil van Dijk and Joe Gomez all remain sidelined.
- Klopp must decide whether to rest players with one eye on the upcoming clash with Spurs, and Mohamed Salah would appear to be first in line after playing the full 90 minutes of Wednesday's Champions League dead-rubber draw against FC Midtjylland.
- Either way, a host of key players including Sadio Mane, Roberto Firmino, Jordan Henderson, Georginio Wijnaldum, Joel Matip and Andrew Robertson are expected to return to the starting XI after sitting out on Wednesday.
- In stark contrast to Liverpool's problems, Parker is blessed with virtually a clean bill of health ahead of the visit of the champions.
- Sunday's match is expected to come just too soon for Kenny Tete and Terence Kongolo to return from their respective injuries, but the hosts otherwise have everyone available.
Form guide +/- Liverpool: 26/17 WWDWD
Fulham: 11/21 WLLWL
Possible line-up from The Gaffer Alisson Becker TAA -
Fabinho -
Matip -
Robbo Curtis Jones -
Gini -
Henderson Salah -
Bobby -
Mane Match build up - Liverpool could be forgiven for having one eye on Wednesday night's top-of-the-table crunch match with Tottenham Hotspur ahead of this game, but Jurgen Klopp has naturally insisted that his side's full focus is on Fulham.
- Spurs, who currently sit above Liverpool on goal difference at the summit, are in action in the match immediately before the Reds get underway and so Klopp will know by the time his side kick off whether victory would be enough to take them top.
- There is good reason for Klopp to stress the importance of Liverpool not allowing their focus to drift, though; whereas their last two league games at Anfield have seen them record impressive wins over Leicester City and Wolverhampton Wanderers, their away form has not been as imperious.
- Indeed, across all competitions they have drawn their last three on the road, while you have to go back to September 20 for their last top-flight triumph on their travels.
- Since that win over Chelsea, Liverpool have been hammered by Aston Villa and drawn successive matches at Everton, Manchester City and Brighton & Hove Albion, the latter of whom sit just one place above Fulham heading into the weekend.
- The Reds have now won three, drawn four and lost four of their last 11 away league games stretching back to last season, having won 17 and lost none of their previous 18, while only four teams in the league this season have picked up fewer points on their travels.
- Such a drastic dip in form will no doubt be a concern for Klopp given the impact it could have on his side's title defence, but Liverpool will regard Sunday's match as a good opportunity to get back to winning ways.
- Klopp has the best win ratio of any manager to take charge of at least 10 away Premier League games in London, coming out on top in 16 of his 26 such matches, while Liverpool as a team have won their last 18 league games against newly-promoted opposition - the second-longest such run in Premier League history.
- The Merseysiders have also won their last six Premier League meetings with Fulham, so the stats suggest that it will be another tricky contest for a Fulham side battling against relegation.
- Scott Parker's man have lost three of their last four league games and have lost eight times in total already this term - a tally only rock-bottom Sheffield United have the unwanted distinction of beating.
- However, both of their wins have come in their last five games and that includes an impressive 2-1 triumph away to Leicester City - the type of result which will boost their confidence heading into these games.
- In truth, Fulham might regard three points from successive games against Leicester, Manchester City and Liverpool as a satisfactory return, which should take a certain degree of pressure off getting a result in this game, particularly with Brighton and Newcastle United in their next two after this.
- However, Liverpool's away record does offer them a glimmer of hope, even if Parker's side also possess one of the worst home records in the division, with only Sheffield United having picked up fewer points on their own turf.
- The main concern for Fulham will be how to keep Liverpool at bay, with the Reds boasting the best attacking record in the division this season compared to Fulham's second-worst defensive record.
- West Bromwich Albion are the only team the Cottagers have prevented from scoring this season, so if Fulham are to pull off a major upset this weekend then it seems a safe bet that they will also need to breach the Liverpool defence more than once.
Liverpool and Manchester United’s unexpected showdown will be telling but not definitive [Telegraph - text below]
By Jason Burt, 16 January 2021 The two northern powerhouses meet at Anfield on Sunday in the most unusual of circumstances in this most unusual of seasons. Despite the depth, ferocity and resonance of their rivalry, rarely do Liverpool face Manchester United when both are contesting the top of the table. It is all the more exciting because it is so unexpected. This was the campaign in which, without underestimating the formidable challenge of Manchester City, Liverpool were due to claim a 20th league title. In doing so they would have drawn level with United as the most successful team in the 132-year history of the competition.
That may still happen – who seriously would bet against it? – though City’s challenge has strengthened in recent weeks and appears to be gathering towards a title charge of their own built on an unexpected defensive solidity with the re-emergence of John Stones and the impressive introduction to English football of Ruben Dias.
It may well be that City profit from the attention being focused on United and Liverpool and that, in itself, could prove a strangely welcome relief to Pep Guardiola, who is so used to being in the glare. The City manager would have allowed himself a smile when Liverpool and United were drawn against each other in the FA Cup next week. The focus is definitely elsewhere at present. Even in the past few days, the potentially draining nature of the Liverpool/United rivalry has emerged, with Jurgen Klopp drawing himself into a debate over penalties and Marcus Rashford candidly admitting Jose Mourinho, when he was manager, had taught the players how to win them.
Klopp will be relieved that it is not Mourinho who is in charge – not because he does not feel he can beat him, more because he knows how sour and distracting it can become if he is in the race. It is remarkable that United are in contention. The suspicion remains that they will still end up finishing third at best, but victory at Anfield for the team with the strongest away record in the league against the team with the best home record will take them six points clear which, in a tight campaign such as this and even though we will still be a game short of halfway, is a workable lead.
When Liverpool ruthlessly destroyed Crystal Palace 7-0 away the week before Christmas to go five points clear at the top – and eight ahead of United, having played two games more – no one would have predicted that 29 days later that was possible. It feels like United need to avoid defeat to sustain this argument because a Liverpool victory would not just take them back to the top, but suggest that their blip in oddly dropping points to West Bromwich Albion and Newcastle United before being defeated by Southampton is over. Even so this is only the fourth time in the Premier League era that we can legitimately say United and Liverpool are in the same title race with the possibility of one damaging the other.
In April 1997 United won 3-1 at Anfield in a significant step towards winning the league; in January 2002 Liverpool won 1-0 at Old Trafford only for Arsenal to finish first and in 2009 there was a thumping 4-1 victory by Liverpool away to United although Sir Alex Ferguson’s team rallied to win their third title in a row. But that has been it. For all the talk of knocking each other off their perch, to water down Ferguson’s phrase, Liverpool and United did it to themselves over the last few decades. From 1973 to 1990 Liverpool won the title 11 times – without United winning one – as they took what appeared to be an unassailable lead. Then from 1993 to 2013 it was United who were utterly dominant, winning a remarkable 13 titles under Ferguson, whose avowed goal was to dominate Liverpool as much as English football.
Liverpool’s demise after 1990 mirrors United’s, in a sense, since Ferguson retired, although the financial might at Old Trafford always meant that their period in the wilderness should – logically – always be shorter.
Errors were made with Liverpool’s failure to cope with the post-Boot Room, post-Kenny Dalglish era similar to United’s lack of preparedness once Ferguson retired.
Not even Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s most fervent supporters would bracket him with Klopp in terms of managerial status but – and despite Mourinho’s second-place finish in 2017-18 – he is doing what no other United manager has done since Ferguson and that is placing the team in the mix when it comes to actually winning the title. Or, at least, being in the race. For that United will be thankful, even if it is largely due to Liverpool stumbling – and the loss of Virgil van Dijk is now being keenly felt – and City’s sluggish start that Solskjaer has been able to take advantage. Can he and United sustain it?
They arrive at Anfield having not lost on the road in the league since a 2-0 defeat there a year ago this month, which felt like a crucial step in Liverpool reclaiming the title with their fans allowing themselves to chant “we’re going to win the league” for the first time after the final whistle. Of course they were going to win it. This time, whatever the result, it is far less clear what will happen.
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How the premier league stands mid season
Title race
After Spurs draw against Fulham last night i'm confident there are 3 teams left with a chance off the title. Spurs and especially Chelsea and Arsenal are not good enough this season. Despite strong starts from Leicester Saints Villa and Everton i don't think any off those have a chance in fact the middle 2 will do well to get in the top 7.
Liverpool looked like the team to beat but with 2 points from the last 3 games which is one less than sheffield united. Injuries and poor form have made me think the Manchester clubs are at least equal in terms off chance off winning with Man City the favourites and Man Utd about even. The game at Anfield will be vital next week in determining the title race. The winner will likely challenge Man City in my opinion
3 predictions regarding this area off the table
- Man City win the league
- Nobody gets 80 points
- These 3 are at least 10 points clear off 4th
Champions League
Spurs and Chelsea have both looked poor recently giving Everton Southampton Villa and and espeically Leicester the chance for top 4 this season with Leicester the most likely to achually finish 4th and Villa least likely as they will have a compact schudlue next season.
Spurs are more likely to find form than Chelsea as they are 4 points ahead with even games and have looked slightly better than Chelsea recently
Arsenal will also have a chance if they can continue this good but they are pretty easy games compared to average against West Brom and Brighton plus Chelsea have been shit recently. I expect them to beat Palace tonight but won't get anywhere near top 4 and will be in the battle for europa league even though one off my predictions for the next bit is good for Arsenal.
3 predictions
- Leicester get the final top 4 spot on the last day off the season above Spurs
- Everton are in the fight until the 2nd to last game
- Chelsea and Arsenal are at least 7 point off Champions League
Europa League
Everton will finish in the top 7 {which i think is Europa League} 6th is my prediction. So I think there is one spot open between Chelsea Arsenal Southampton Aston Villa with West Ham and Leeds possibly offering outside chances. I don't think Wolves have any chance with Jiminez out and there recent poor form sincebeating Chelsea who are bad enough themselves right now.
Based on recent form I expect Arsenal to overtake Chelsea around week 25 as momentum is on there side and against Chelseas. If Chelsea finish above them they will have to re overtake them. Assuming Arsenal get 3 points tonight.
I think Villa would be a good bet for top 7 but there games will be stacked at the end off the season its likely they will have to make up 3 or even 4 games on a already tight schudle in the second half off the season. I think it will get the better off them espeically if they have more games postponed makin top 8 a more reasonable target. I think there are sides below them like Chelsea and Arsenal that have a good chance off over taking them.
I think Saints have the best chance off the non big 9 clubs {the 9 clubs everyone put in the top 9 at the start off the season i think you can work it out from now not the top 9 in the table} to get top 7 and do have a reasonable chance in my opinion.
Leeds if they can play at there best can be in the fight as well but they always paly really good and win by 3+ goals or play terrible and lose by 3+ goals. They have conceaded the 2nd most goals despite being comfortbale in midtable. If anything I think they are liekly to get found out though form has been good with 3 wins from the last 5.
If you don't count the first 2 games where West Ham looked pretty poor they would have 7 wins to 3 losses and they have not lost to a non big 6 club this season except Newcastle on the first day. They have been surprisingly good this season but similar to Leeds i don't think they will have a stand out 2nd half off the season and will finish 10th at best.
My 3 predictions
- Arsenal finish above Chelsea
- Southampton beat Arsenal to the spot on the final day
- Only 5 points seperate 7th and 12th at the end off the season
meh teams
Leeds and West Ham have the potential to drop into this group Wolves have the potential to move up but I don't see it without Jiminez espeically with 2 draws and 3 losses in there last 5. It's not Nunos fault and he should not be sacked he's the reason they got here in the first place as a stable mid table side way clear off relegtion. I can't because the 2 reasons i've already mentioned see them finishing higher than 12th which is around where they will finish maybe even a bit lower. They will do very well to get 50 points this season.
Crystal Palace have been the most bang average side in the league not near europe or relegation simialr to Wolves but with less intresting stories and most consistant form as they have never been on a really good or bad run beating Arsenal tonight could give them an outside chance off pushing top 10 and being above mid table.
If any teams below most likely to do so would be Burnley they could also enter this group.
Unless Neves or Zaha get injured these teams arn't coming lower than 15th or higher than 12th.
The bottom six
Burnley are quite likely to finish nowhere near the relegation zone and Dyche has turned there form around quite suddenly and they have had 3 wins very recently from a terrible positions where they looked well on track for relegation. 4 points against Brighton and Palace gave them the boost and 4 against Everton and Arsenal kicked started there season. I think they are likely to finish well above the 40 point mark possibly pushing Palace and Wolves.
Newcastle have been on alful form 2 points from the last six which included games against Fulham and Sheff Utd. They are very likely to end up in the relegation battle and look like a sure bet for the bottom 5 unless they change manager quick.
Fulham look like a better side and are now on a 5 game unbeaten run in the league and six if you include the cup albiet all the league ones are draws at least they are not losing. If they continue like this they have a good chance off beating Brighton or Newcastle.
Even though they play very good football i don't think brighton will improve they have been playing very good football which looks like a top 10 side since the start off last season but nothing ever seems to come off it as they can not win at home. They have scored 8 and conceaded 11 yet havn't won in there last 8 getting 5 draws which arn't that useful in a 3-1-0 points sytem and 3 1 goal margin losses they score 3 goals the one game they conceade 3 goals. They need a win to re gain confidence and are likely to go down to be honest. If they lose Leeds away which is likely that means they will have 1 4 points after playing every team once that means they will finish around 28. I think they as well as all the bottom 6 teams except Newcastle and possibly WBA will improve but not by as much as Burnley lets say. Can't believe Burnley are even to these guys in the betting odds.
WBA have conceaded 13 and socred 1 under big sam luckily the goal came in the game they needed it most and that Liverpool point was lucky as they were not the better team. I could see Big Sam spening loads off money in the window and leaving them laods off deadwood to recover in the championship.
Sheff Utd I don't think we can make up a 9 point gap even though i expect the recent boost in confidence will mean a WAY stronger 2nd half to the season. 9 points to Brighton is a point less than the 10 point gap Chelsea have to Man Utd. Never say never but it would be very surprisng for my blades to stay up. Same thing for WBA. We achually outplayed them without that win they would have 2 less than the next least wins.
3 predictions
- Brighton Sheff Utd and WBA are relegated
- Fulham finish above Newcastle
- Sheff Utd don't break Derbys record and finish on 20-25 points and above West Brom
Please excuse the poor spelling and gammer I took forever to write this. I most off my I arn't capitals
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[Loan Watch Report] 18.01-24.01
<-- Previous thread Overall summary
| Name | Club | Apps: starts (from the bench) | Minutes played | Goals | Assists | Clean sheets (GK only) | Note |
| Matej Kovar | Swindon Town (League One) | 21 (0) | 1890 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Loan ended: recalled back to Man Utd |
| Joel Pereira | Huddersfield Town (Championship) | 1 (0) | 90 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Jacob Carney | Brighouse Town (Northern Premier League) | 4 (0) | 360 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Loan ended |
| Jacob Carney | Portadown FC (NIFL Premiership) | 0 (0) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Max Taylor | Kidderminster Harriers (National League North) | 10 (0) | 841 | 1 | 0 | - | League suspended until February 1st |
| Di'Shon Bernard | Salford City (League Two) | 14 (1) | 1322 | 2 | 2 | - | |
| Diogo Dalot | AC Milan (Serie A) | 11 (4) | 1077 | 1 | 1 | - | |
| Ethan Laird | MK Dons (League One) | 2 (1) | 210 | 0 | 1 | - | |
| James Garner | Watford (Championship) | 13 (8) | 1248 | 0 | 1 | - | |
| Dylan Levitt | Charlton Athletic (League One) | 5 (0) | 386 | 0 | 0 | - | Loan ended: recalled back to Man Utd |
| Aliou Traore | SM Caen (Ligue 2) | 4 (10) | 531 | 0 | 0 | - | |
| Andreas Pereira | SS Lazio (Serie A) | 3 (14) | 478 | 1 | 1 | - | |
| Max Haygarth | Brentford B (-) | 7 (4) | 628 | 3 | 0 | - | Loan ended: moved to Brentford on a permanent deal |
| Tahith Chong | Werder Bremen (Bundesliga) | 5 (10) | 534 | 1 | 2 | - | |
| Amad Diallo | Atalanta (Serie A) | 0 (2) | 41 | 0 | 0 | - | Permanent deal to join Manchester United |
Diogo Dalot (AC Milan)
Played 90 minutes in 2:0 win against Cagliari in Serie A. Was unused substitute in 0:3 loss against Atalanta BC in Serie A. Was selected to Serie A WhoScored Team of the Week.
Selected highlights:
Individual highlights vs Cagliari
WhoScored.com rating vs Cagliari: 8.1/10 (team average: 7.08) (3rd highest rating on the pitch)
Stats vs Cagliari:
Shots (on target): 2 (1)
Possession: 4.8%
Touches: 72
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 39/46 (85%)
Key passes: 0
Dribbles won/Dribbles attempted (success %): 2/3 (67%) (joint most dribbles won on the pitch)
Dribbled past: 1
Aerials won/Aerial attempted (success %): 2/2 (100%)
Tackles won/Tackles attempted (success %): 4/5 (80%) (most tackles won on the pitch)
Clearances: 4 (joint most clearances on the pitch)
Interceptions: 4 (joint most clearances on the pitch)
Corners (accurate %): 2 (100%)
Dispossessed: 0
Errors: 0
Fouls: 4 (most fouls on the pitch)
Offsides: 1
Fans' opinion after game vs Cagliari:
“- Dalot: Meh. He's ... "OK *shrug" 85% of the time, 15% of the time he tries to go forward and attack. But the difference between him and Theo seems to be, when Theo plays, his teammates just know he's going to bomb up and down like mad the whole time; that energy rubs off and the rest is also forced to go forward. Dalot by being rather passive in the majority of the time, doesn't spark this energy to go forward for the rest of the team.”* ~Nickenator85 on /ACMilan
“2 seasons ago this current Dalot would be our best fullback, now we're spoilt with Theo, Calabria and soon Kalulu. He's decent, but nothing spectacular in comparison” ~Gaverini on /ACMilan
“Dalot was inconsistent, we're used to the best left-back in the world and it's obvious that the Portuguese can't be at that level.” ~Lambro on AC Milan Forum
“I don't think he's performing bad as people make it out to be. Clearly being right-footed playing on the left is hindering him. All season we've been funneling our attacks through Theo so it's almost like a baptism of fire for the team to adapt to Dalot who'll have to take that extra second to cut inside.” ~fray on The Red&Black Forums
“5/10. Not a convincing performance. Is he an AC Milan player? As a left-back he seems to struggle and not just a little. In the end, when Conti came on, he was advanced to midfield and the outcome seemed to be better.” ~@RedellePagelle on Twitter
Tahith Chong (Werder Bremen)
Was unused substitute in 0:1 loss against Borussia Moenchengladbach in Bundesliga. Was unused substitute in 4:1 win against Hertha Berlin in Bundesliga.
James Garner (Watford)
Was unused substitute in 1:0 win against Barnsley in Championship. Was unused substitute in 2:1 win against Stoke City in Championship.
Ethan Laird (MK Dons)
Played 57 minutes and got an assist in 3:1 win against Fleetwood Town in League One. He has been selected to League One Team of the Week.
Selected highlights:
Assist
WhoScored.com rating: 7.7/10 (team average: 6.91) (3rd best rating for MK Dons)
Stats:
Shots (on target): 1 (0)
Possession: 1.6% (joint least possession on the pitch)
Touches: 27 (3rd least touches on the pitch)
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 8/13 (62%) (3rd worst passing accuracy for MK Dons)
Key passes: 1
Dribbles won/Dribbles attempted (success %): 1/2 (50%)
Dribbled past: 0
Aerials won/Aerial attempted (success %): 2/2 (100%)
Tackles won/Tackles attempted (success %): 2/2 (100%)
Clearances: 0
Interceptions: 1
Dispossessed: 2
Errors: 0
Fouls: 3
Offsides: 0
Russell Martin (MK Dons manager): "[Ethan Laird getting kicked a lot and coming off?] Yeah, I think he's just getting used to life in League One. I'm sure he will be fine. But I was pleased, really pleased with him. We need to get some work into Ethan so that he understands fully what we're doing, but he shown real glimpses of what he's about. So yeah, I've been pleased with Ethan and he's got a lot of improvements to make as well."
Fans' opinion:
“Ethan Laird is absolutely unreal. Too good for league one. Bossing it on the right so far tonight, got an assist too” ~@KieronDay03 on Twitter
“Unreal. Is it me though or do you sometimes watch him go in to defend and initially he’s slow and then shows he has she acceleration and you think why didn’t you just get there quicker from the statt.... dons it a few times tonight.” ~@pdmkd on Twitter
“Laird is my new God. All Hail!” ~keyser soze on The Concrete Roundabout Forum
“Laird has a lot of swagger and a more natural option on the wing.” ~cornerdon26 on The Concrete Roundabout Forum
“Thought the defence looked shaky second half once Ethan laird came off” ~Donsduck on The Concrete Roundabout Forum
Jacob Carney (Portadown FC)
Matthew Tipton (Portadown FC manager): "The goalkeeper position is so important, if the foundation is right then everything else works better - defenders can move higher up the pitch and the attacking players get the ball in better positions to hurt the opposition, with the overall play a lot sharper. The distribution is vital and that can be having a goalkeeper comfortable with the ball at his feet playing it out from the back or having the speed of thought to identify opportunities playing it upfield. We know what Gareth can bring given his Irish League experience but Jacob has come as a 19-year-old on loan from Manchester United and settled really well, looking very sharp. Both goalkeepers are working hard and have adjusted to our training and gameplan.”
Joel Pereira (Huddersfield Town)
Was unused substitute in 0:1 loss against Millwall in Championship.
Aliou Traore (SM Caen)
Came on from the bench and played 31 minutes in 3:1 win against EA Guingamp in Coupe de France. Was not selected in matchday squad in 1:2 loss against Rodez AF in Ligue 2.
Andreas Pereira (SS Lazio)
Played 59 minutes and got assist in 2:1 win against Parma in Coppa Italia. Was unused substitute in 2:1 win against Sassuolo in Serie A.
Selected highlights:
Assist vs Parma
Good through ball resulting in a chance for Lazio
Corner followed by a good scoring chance that hit the post
SofaScore.com rating vs Parma: 7.0/10 (team average: 6.81)
Stats vs Parma:
Shots (on target): 1 (0)
Hit woodwork: 1
Big chances missed: 1
Touches: 37
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 13/17 (76%) (worst passing accuracy for Lazio)
Key passes: 3 (most key passes for Lazio)
Big chances created: 2
Dribbles won/Dribbles attempted (success %): 1/4 (25%)
Dribbled past: 0
Aerials: 0
Tackles: 0
Clearances: 0
Interceptions: 0
Corners (accurate %):
Fouls: 0
Offsides: 0
Fans' opinion after game vs Parma:
“I was sorry to see him go off so early, he wasn't playing great but he wasn't that bad either. I still think his role is as a midfielder and not as a second striker, I'd try him there from the start with Sassuolo. It's true that he's a bit too fond of the ball, but I don't see him in the middle of the pitch as a second striker. He's a very technical player, the kind who has to touch lots of balls to make an impact.” ~Stock on SS Lazio Forum
“It's a shame about Pereira, he could have played a bit more because he has unquestionable quality, although I don't see him as a replacement for Correa but more as a replacement for Luis Alberto.” ~@GladiatorFabry on Twitter
“Would really like for him to be a part of this team. Both parties want to stay together so I expect United to get a fee for him regardless of what the price is. Lazio and United usually have good business together so I expect permanent move at the end of the season.” ~TheSoccerguy124 on /soccer
“For me, at this moment Pereira in midfield you can't put him. Not along with one of Milinkovic or Luis. Tactically he struggles so much.” ~HummingBard on Lazio.net
“Andreas Pereira a player of the highest calibre.” ~Saymyname on Lazio.net
Di'Shon Bernard (Salford City)
Played 90 minutes in 2:2 draw against Harrogate Town in League Two.
Selected highlights:
Error leading to goal
Wonderful long ball pass
Poor marking in the box which leads to a chance for Harrogat Town
WhoScored.com rating: 5.5/10 (team average: 6.49) (worst rating on the pitch)
Stats:
Shots: 0
Possession: 6.2% (2nd most possession for Salford City)
Touches: 63 (2nd most touches for Salford City)
Accurate passes/Total passes (success %): 41/56 (73%)
Key passes: 0
Dribbles: 0
Dribbled past: 0
Aerials won/Aerial attempted (success %): 4/8 (50%) (joint most aerials won for Salford City)
Tackles won/Tackles attempted (success %): 1/1 (100%)
Clearances: 5 (most clearances for Salford City)
Interceptions: 1
Dispossessed: 0
Errors: 1 (most errors on the pitch)
Fouls: 3 (joint most fouls on the pitch)
Next up
January 26th:
At 7 PM Garner's Watford plays Millwall and Joel's Huddersfield Town plays Bristol City in the Championship. Laird's MK Dons play Charlton Athletic in League One. Bernard's Salford City plays Cambridge United in League Two.
At 7:45 PM Carney's Portadown FC plays Crusaders in NIFL Premiership.
January 27th:
At 5 PM Dalot's AC Milan plays Inter Milan in Coppa Italia.
January 30th:
At 2 PM Dalot's AC Milan plays Bologna in Serie A.
At 2:30 PM Chong's Werder Bremen play Schalke 04 in the Bundesliga.
At 3 PM Joel's Huddersfield Town plays Stoke City in the Championship. Laird's MK Dons play AFC Wimbledon in League One. Bernard's Salford City plays Oldham Athletic in League Two. Carney's Portadown FC plays Warrenpoint Town in NIFL Premiership.
At 6 PM Traore's SM Caen plays FC Chambly in Ligue 2.
January 31st:
At 2 PM Andreas' SS Lazio plays Atalanta in Serie A.
*All times are GMT.
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United’s hopeless pursuit of Jadon Sancho – the real story (theathletic.com)
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Throwaway account here providing the full Article:
https://theathletic.com/2115449/2020/10/06/manchester-united-jadon-sancho-transfer-window/ since it's behind a paywall.
United’s hopeless pursuit of Jadon Sancho – the real story
Laurie Whitwell, David Ornstein and more (Other contributor: Raphael Honigstein)
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer identified Jadon Sancho as his principal target this summer in what was seen as a vital opportunity for squad enhancement following Champions League qualification.
But after 10 weeks of opportunity for talks, Sancho remains a Borussia Dortmund player and the simple truth is that United never got close.
The Athletic has been told that Solskjaer urged Ed Woodward to keep trying, and financial concerns meant other signings were pushed to the periphery until the final 48 hours of the window.
Donny van de Beek arrived on September 2 but sources say United waited to pull the trigger on other purchases until it became clear Sancho was not arriving.
So for the third window in a row, United were active on deadline day, completing the signings of Edinson Cavani, Alex Telles, Amad Diallo and Facundo Pellistri. In January, it was Odion Ighalo, hot on the heels of Bruno Fernandes. Last summer, the club were trying to sign Mario Mandzukic or Paulo Dybala.
The cause for this year’s unedifying sense of late freneticism appears to centre on the priority given to the Sancho move and, fundamentally, a misunderstanding by United of Dortmund’s intentions.
Essentially, United did not believe Dortmund would stay firm on the price-tag of €120 million or their deadline of August 10, embarking on a long-running game of poker without realising that the Bundesliga club weren’t even at the table. United effectively sat still in the hope Dortmund would blink first and place the call they were ready to do business. Intermediaries attempted to broker a deal but were waiting on United to move, which did not happen.
Some sources felt Woodward was holding until the last moment to place an all-in bet, giving the impression of resistance in the ambition of driving the price down. But instead, United kept their chips and stayed true to their valuation. By never ruling themselves out of the deal though, United’s actions seriously annoyed Dortmund’s executives, who became even more entrenched in their position as the weeks went on.
When Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc stood at the side of their training pitches on August 10, the first day of pre-season, and said the decision on Sancho staying was “final”, one alarmed United director made a call to check whether the statement was genuine. The response was along the lines of, “What did you expect? You knew the terms.”
Hans-Joachim Watzke, Dortmund’s chief executive, is said to have personally phoned United at the start of the summer and explained very clearly how much the deal would cost and when it needed to be done by.
United privately argue that the continued conversations after that point, conducted via intermediaries Emeka Obasi and Marco Lichtsteiner, were evidence of Dortmund remaining open to a sale. But the reason for the involvement of agents is hotly disputed.
United insist Dortmund wanted talks done through Obasi and Lichtsteiner, and some believe this was so Dortmund could stick to their public stance while having a backchannel to a potential resolution. United held lengthy discussions and made known what they were willing to pay, which held a firm limit given the current economic environment.
Sources say Dortmund reject that idea and deny they ever appointed agents. Previous deals with Arsenal and Barcelona for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Ousmane Dembele respectively were based on face-to-face meetings with club counterparts.
On this occasion, they believed that they had provided the fee to United and since Woodward failed to match it by August 10, there was no need for further direct discussion.
United felt there was tacit encouragement to keep lines of communication going but the only way they could have got the deal on after that date was with a “crazy” offer along the lines of Neymar’s £200 million transfer to Paris Saint-Germain. Sources told The Athletic that if United had come in with an offer of €140-£150 million then Dortmund might have done business. Conscious of their reputation having set their position out so publicly, Dortmund would have been able to sell that as a turnaround made in extraordinary circumstances.
United argued that the €120 million price tag did not take into account the financial hit caused by the pandemic. Executives genuinely felt it should come down, given the full total of the transfer was potentially enormous. The Athletic has been told initial calculations rose to €250 million including wages and agent fees. United made what has been described as a “calm decision” to refuse that amount and felt vindicated when the government postponed the return of fans to stadiums costing the club another £50 million in lost revenue.
But it is understood that Dortmund originally planned for the €120 million as a “minimum” — and ideally wanted nearer the €147 million fee that Barcelona paid for Dembele — so it was an adjustment to even consider a bid that could reach that figure in installments.
In any case, United never got near to that guaranteed sum. One offer, submitted by chief negotiator Matt Judge through the agents in the final week of September, amounted to £80 million, plus add-ons. Once passed to Watzke, it was immediately rejected as too little too late. There was a sense at the Westfalenstadion that United did not take Dortmund’s demands seriously or were acting without full intentions to actually complete the signing.
All proposals were said to have been relayed to Dortmund via the agents knowing full well they would be turned down.
Sancho himself is believed to have felt undervalued by the offers and even if United had placed the right bid late on, it is understood he would have questioned why it did not come earlier.
Sancho was never going to agitate for a move unless United came close to Dortmund’s demands. Illness kept him out of the squad for Saturday’s 4-0 win over Freiburg but Sancho then attended a house party in London with Tammy Abraham and Ben Chilwell, in breach of lockdown rules, and will join up late with England as a result. He has since apologised.
The forward was prepared to join United but not “desperate” to move this summer. He was relaxed either way. That was the sense drawn by England team-mates at the September camp.
That being said, others close to United were under the impression he “would walk to Old Trafford”. Sancho texted Marcus Rashford about United, and the pair were said to be excited at the prospect of linking up. Sancho has many friends in Manchester from his time at Manchester City.
Other United players were in touch too and so was Solskjaer, who as long ago as January wanted to ascertain Sancho’s willingness to join and to get a personal sense of his character. Having privately acknowledged the possibility of a sale, Dortmund were aware of the conversations, which are standard for most transfers.
There had actually been dialogue with Sancho’s representatives dating back to when he left Manchester City for Dortmund in 2017, but talks commenced in earnest this year once United had secured Champions League football on July 26.
United’s exit from the Europa League was disappointing, but some close to the club felt it would at least reinforce the impetus for signings — a reminder to the Glazer family that funding was required to take the next step. “But extending the window to October 5 is probably the worst thing for Solskjaer,” said a source. “I can see United taking talks to the wire again.”
There were some raised eyebrows at United over reports of Sancho’s lateness to training and fines for breaching lockdown regulations in Germany. But United viewed the indiscretions as attributable to a desire to move on from Dortmund. “We’ll make Carrington a place where he wants to come to work every day,” one member of staff told a colleague.
Solskjaer had determined Sancho would be his main target, with one source saying in April: “We are ready to go, we know who we want, the people at the top are now certain.”
But that conviction was not found in the pursuit, with Dortmund soon frustrated at United’s reluctance to commit to a fee or structure. There were allegations of “freestyling”, a refusal to provide a top line, and when pushed for answers, Judge suggested the issue lay with “the owners”. Agents proposing other players were told of a £50 million net spend budget. Executives feel they have a responsibility to protect the long-term strength of the club by not over-paying.
The Athletic has previously reported how Joel Glazer, in daily contact with Woodward, is involved in all major signings and paid particularly close attention to the Sancho deal. There were accusations of a split in opinion between the pair over the price to be sanctioned, with Woodward advocating a higher fee, but United insist board members were united on their view that €120 million was too much in the post-COVID-19 climate. Recruitment staff were told about a significant budget being allocated to Sancho but later the internal line back from Woodward was that the deal was “too much money”.
Privately United suggested the €120 million figure could be reached including some unrealistic bonuses, which may have allowed Dortmund to save face with a headline figure. Dortmund were resolute in their stance though and believed a higher price could be achieved next summer. The cause for their confidence was revealed when Zorc announced a previously unknown extension to Sancho’s contract, meaning it did not run out until 2023.
United insist they knew all those details and were for a long time frustrated by what they perceived to be the slow process of dealing with Dortmund through Obasi, Sancho’s agent, and Lichtsteiner, the brother of former Arsenal player Stephan. The two intermediaries are described as “very close”. Lichtsteiner previously assisted on the departures of Aubameyang and Dembele to Arsenal and Barcelona respectively, and has vast experience of difficult transfers. He is said to be well-regarded and very discreet with information.
United have in the past worked on deals through agents, and last summer placed an offer for the Newcastle United midfielder Sean Longstaff in this manner. Sources at Newcastle suspected this was so United had deniability if unsuccessful.
On other occasions, the technique has worked well. Woodward conducted the purchase of Juan Mata from Chelsea without one word to his counterparts at Stamford Bridge to block any chance of Wayne Rooney being brought into the conversation. Chelsea wanted to buy Rooney that window.
Before any fee could be finalised this time, there were difficulties over wages and agent fees.
It has been suggested to The Athletic that the opening contract offer to Sancho was actually slightly lower than his Dortmund salary. As is customary in Germany, Sancho’s contract was heavily incentivised and contained bonus payments for each point Dortmund achieved.
Conscious of maintaining a certain wage structure, United’s initial proposal was less than Sancho’s total pay packet at Dortmund. Van de Beek joined on £110,000 a week, for instance, and his representatives were told that was in line with a refined structure given Fernandes signed for £150,000 a week.
A second offer to Sancho, in early August, is said to have achieved parity with his Dortmund deal, with the potential for a fractional increase based on performance. This was not accepted. Sancho’s representatives, who carefully organised a move away from City in 2017, were clear in their view of Sancho’s worth and expected to be recompensed as such.
Though not asking for money equitable to David De Gea, who signed a deal worth more than £375,000 a week within the final 12 months of becoming a free agent, the terms desired were thought to be in the region of Paul Pogba’s £250,000 a week.
There were reports that wages had been sorted in the first week of August but this was not the case. United believed leaks to that end emanating from Germany were an attempt to “put pressure” on the process.
Still, there was positivity about a solution. Sources say the Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp was keeping himself abreast of Sancho’s situation and around this stage told friends he believed the player would end up at Old Trafford.
There was eventually a breakthrough on Sancho’s salary in the second week of September.
Running parallel were negotiations over agent fees. Some have suggested an initial proposal for a payment to the agents put United on the back foot. After negotiations, a lower sum was agreed. But that still left the transfer fee and, as the gap remained, other options were considered. A prospective loan deal for Gareth Bale was set up but the Wales international declined to wait as a reserve for Sancho. He had the emotional pull of Tottenham Hotspur in any case.
Watford’s Ismaila Sarr, previously not regarded as a genuine option, came into the reckoning in the final fortnight of the window when United explored a loan move. With Watford in the Championship, Sarr has until the domestic deadline of October 16 to join a Premier League club.
Talks also commenced over Dembele. An original inquiry for the Barcelona forward was made in July but at that stage, Dembele was not interested. Sources say Liverpool also made a check back then.
But while Liverpool instead signed Diogo Jota on September 19, it was United returning in the dying embers of the market to investigate whether Dembele might join on loan. It was a late move. A source close to the Barcelona dressing room said at the time: “He intended to stay at Barcelona. In pre-season, his attitude was really different and the players were super happy to see how he was training and how involved in the routine. Therefore, everything has to have changed a lot for him to have decided to go to United.”
In the end, United only wanted a loan. Barcelona demanded a sale, so the situation looked unlikely to develop until a late change of stance by the La Liga club on Monday evening. Barcelona indicated they would agree to a loan but only if Dembele extended his contract at the Nou Camp, and the deal was off.
Industry insiders reported numerous other inquiries and proposals put to the club by representatives, such as Real Madrid’s Luka Jovic, Inter Milan’s Ivan Perisic and Juventus’ Douglas Costa. There was exasperation among some at Carrington that United were leaving business so late again and having to work down their list to second and third options. “Looks like a panic buy,” was the assessment by one source close to the dressing room of the Cavani signing.
United did ask Bayer Leverkusen for Kai Havertz in January but were put off by the €100 million fee and never made a follow-up call this summer, clearing the path to Chelsea.
Meanwhile, the Sancho failure represents the third time Dortmund have got their way over United this year, after the signings of Erling Haaland and Jude Bellingham — two episodes that have caused lingering frustration.
Some agents who have worked with United on other deals believe the club should have halted talks on Sancho much earlier if €120 million was seen as too much and pursued alternatives. There are accusations the delay speaks to a fundamental issue in recruitment, which sources call a paralysis of decision-making. But given how much Solskjaer wanted Sancho, United wanted to try for their No 1 target for as long as possible.
United accept they have missed out on a top player but insist they have not over-extended their finances. The signings of Diallo and Pellistri, both 18-year-old wingers, are regarded as viable options for the first-team once bedded into England through the under-21s side. Diallo’s cost of €21 million plus €20 million is not insignificant, however, inevitably inviting questions about why United refused the extra money for Sancho. Diallo has been scouted since 2016 and is considered one of the most exciting prospects in Italy. There are echoes when Anthony Martial signed for big expense and little experience and became Joel Glazer’s favourite player.
Sancho will stay in the crosshairs, for the next time trading opens. It’s understood he long since shifted his focus to a future transfer rather than moving in the current window. But it is anticipated more clubs will be in the reckoning for his signature by then.
Trophies and Winning Mentality
Introduction
Hello, everyone. We've talked endlessly about Man United's various players and how good they really are, but something which I've seen crop up on occasion is the idea of the 'winning mentality'. In other words, it's this idea that part of the reason that this club is struggling on the pitch at the moment is attributable to the fact that most of our players have little to no experience winning trophies and so lack the required drive, desire or experience to succeed in the same way that the likes of Liverpool and Man City have.
How do we measure 'winning mentality', though? I don't think it can truly be measured objectively, but medals and trophy cabinets might give us some indication. Thus, I'll be going through every player currently at the club (with a minimum cut-off of fifty career senior appearances) and looking at all the senior trophies they've won to see how true it is that our current problems stem partially from a lack of experience at winning things.
David de Gea
De Gea was bought from Atlético Madrid by Sir Alex on the 29th of June 2011 for £18.9 million (which was a British record for a goalkeeper at the time) and it's fair to say that he's been among our best players in recent years. You may already know that he's one of the very few players left at the club who has won a Premier League title, but what else has he won?
Not many people talk about this, but DDG had actually won stuff with Atlético prior to joining United, namely the Europa League and the UEFA Super Cup. Not the most impressive haul, but part of Fergie's magic was instilling a winning mentality into players who otherwise might not have possessed the same mental fortitude.
At United, De Gea was of course part of Ferguson's last title-winning squad. In addition, he has won an FA Cup under van Gaal, a League Cup under Mourinho, three Community Shields (one under Ferguson, one under Moyes and one under Mourinho) and he even got a winners' medal when Mourinho won the Europa League (I checked and he did actually play a few fixtures). All-in-all, not a bad trophy haul, but considering that he was the best goalkeeper in the world at one point, he'll be disappointed to have won just one league title and no Champions Leagues in his senior career. His lack of silverware with Spain will also be an issue for him.
Dean Henderson
Hendo came from the youth ranks but didn't sign a senior contract until August 2015. He has since gone on loan to Stockport County, Grimsby Town, Shrewsbury Town and Sheffield United. In that time, he hasn't won a single senior trophy; the closest he came was making the EFL Trophy final with Shrewsbury and coming second in the Championship with Sheffield United. He's no doubt a solid keeper, but if we're to return to the glory days, Ole (or whoever a future manager might be) is going to need to drill him to win titles.
Sergio Romero
The Argentinian international was signed on a free transfer (his most recent club being Sampdoria) by Louis van Gaal on the 27th of July 2015. Prior to joining United, he had already won the Eredivisie and the Johan Cruyff Shield (which is basically the Dutch Super Cup) with AZ Alkmaar, so he had experience winning league titles. He had also recently featured in the World Cup Final for Argentina, but failed to win.
Since joining United, he has won the FA Cup, the League Cup, the Community Shield and, most notably, the Europa League. He has failed to win anything with Argentina despite reaching two Copa América finals. Considering he's essentially a backup, his trophy cabinet isn't too shabby. Plus, he absolutely earned that Europa League title under José considering he played both in the semi-final and the final (take notes, Ole).
Lee Grant
Manchester United's GOAT goalkeeper has had quite the career. Signed from Stoke City on the 3rd of July 2018 for a reported fee of £1.5 million, it's fair to say that he's a bit of a veteran, having made his senior debut all the way back in 2002. In that time, he has won absolutely nothing. I mean, I guess there's no obligation for the third-choice goalie to have won anything, but still, it's a little odd.
Joel Pereira
A youth player, Joel Pereira has spent most of his time on loan. He has yet to win anything.
Victor Lindelof
Lindelof was signed from Benfica by Mourinho in June 2017 for a fee of €35 million, and his list of honours is bigger than you might expect (granted, not quite playing at the same level). His first trophy was the Swedish Division 1 title with Vasteras SK, before winning three Primeira Liga titles, two Taca de Portugal titles, one Taca de Liga and one Supertaca Candido de Oliveira with Benfica. In other words, prior to joining United, he had won four league titles, two cups, a league cup and a super cup. He has yet to win anything with Sweden, however, or with Manchester United for that matter.
Eric Bailly
Bailly was the first player to be signed by Mourinho on the 8th of June 2016 for £30 million; he had previously been at Villareal. Bailly is a rather unusual case in that he hadn't won any domestic trophies prior to joining United but he's also the first person on this list to have won international silverware, more specifically the 2015 Africa Cup of Nations with Cote d'Ivoire. At United, he has won the Community Shield, the League Cup and the Europa League, all under José Mourinho.
Phil Jones
Now we come to none other than Jonesta himself. When he was first signed by Fergie from Blackburn Rovers on the 13th of June 2011 for £16.5 million, he was genuinely seen as one of the hottest young talents at the time despite not having won anything. It's a shame that hasn't really lived up to his potential, but right now, we're focussed only on trophies, and I have to say that he hasn't done too badly for himself on that front.
He's one of the few players at this club who has won the Premier League, more specifically Ferguson's last title (which is still one more than Steven Gerrard). He has also won the Community Shield under both Ferguson and Moyes (not under Mourinho, however), the FA Cup under van Gaal and the Europa League under Mourinho. At international level, he of course hasn't won anything with England.
Harry Maguire
Maguire was infamously signed for £80 million (a world record fee for a defender) from Leicester City on the 5th of August 2019. The only silverware he's ever won, though, is a Championship play-off trophy with Hull City, which is somehow still more than some of our other players. Of course, he's also reached two semi-finals with England (the World Cup and the Nations League) but he's yet to bring football home. With his record in mind, it's easy to see why some fans are sceptical of Slabhead's captaincy.
Marcos Rojo
Like Cristiano, Rojo came from Sporting, having been signed for £16 million by Louis van Gaal on the 19th of August 2014. He has been much-maligned by United fans for a while now (I bet most of you forgot he was still at the club), but his trophy cabinet, compared to most of our players, is actually relatively impressive.
While at Estudiantes de La Plata (which is not one of the Argentinian 'Big Two' of River Plate and Boca Juniors), Rojo won the 2010 Apertura (which I think counts as a league title?) and the 2009 Copa Libertadores. That makes him the first player on this list to have won a continental title. At United, he has won the FA Cup, the League Cup, the Europa League and the Community Shield. I have to say, if the problem is players who lack a winning mentality then I'm not sure Rojo should be the first to go (though he's still deadwood IMO).
Axel Tuanzebe
Somehow, he actually makes the cut-off; I didn't realise how much he's actually played. Another youth player, most of Tuanzebe's appearances have come while on loan to Aston Villa, and he actually won the Championship play-off with them, so he already has a trophy in his cabinet. He also supposedly has a Europa League to his name, but I'm not sure how considering he hadn't made his debut yet, so I'll be cautious and exclude it.
Luke Shaw
Louis van Gaal signed Luke Shaw from Southampton on the 27th of June 2014 for a reported fee of £30 million (making him the most expensive teenager in world football at the time). What had he won at that point? Nothing. Still, he was considered a generational talent and he has since won a couple of stuff at Manchester United: the Community Shield and the Europa League, both under José. Yeah, his trophy cabinet is pretty barebones.
Interestingly enough, Chelsea were in for him at the same time United were, but backed out due to his wage demands. Perhaps Shaw would have won more trophies had he gone to Chelsea instead? More interesting is that José Mourinho was Chelsea manager at the time, so it's quite ironic that after refusing to sign Shaw, he'd end up managing him anyway.
Timothy Fosu-Mensah
I'm not sure what position TFM plays, but fullback seems most appropriate. Anyway, he came through our academy and didn't win anything on his various loan deals. However, he has won both the FA Cup and the Europa League at United, like most of our players, it seems.
Alex Telles
Signed from Porto for £15 million in this transfer window, I'm happy to say that he's actually won a lot of stuff in various leagues, which is hopefully a good sign.
Firstly, he has won the Copa FGF (a regional Brazilian cup competition) twice with Juventude. Secondly, he has won a league title with Galatasaray, as well as two Turkish Cups and a Turkish Super Cup. Finally, he has won two Primeira Liga titles, a Taca de Portugal and a Supertaca Candido de Oliveira with Porto. He has won trophies at every club which he's spent more than a season with, so hopefully, he'll help United to our first piece of silverware since the Europa League under José.
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
Signed from Crystal Palace for £50 million on the 29th of June 2019, he hasn't got the greatest pedigree, winning nothing. How much he's expected to win at the age of 22, I don't know, but certainly, there's still plenty of time. What's needed is for someone to instil that winning mentality into him like Sir Alex would have done with his young signings.
Diogo Dalot
Dalot was supposedly considered a huge talent before signing for us, but really, it seems to me as if he should be a winger rather than a fullback. Anyway, we signed him from Porto on the 6th of June 2018 for £19 million, but went out on loan this transfer window to A.C. Milan. Believe it or not, he's actually got a trophy to his name, and it's not some minor super cup either; he's actually won the Primeira Liga with Porto. Dude has won more trophies than Aaron Wan-Bissaka.
Paul Pogba
Depending on who you ask, Pogba is a fantastic midfielder who is United's best player, a talented midfielder who has been too inconsistent or a waste of money who has cared only for himself (in José Mourinho's words, a 'virus'). This isn't too surprising considering we signed him for £89 million from Juventus on the 8th of August 2016, which was a world record for any player at the time; of course expectations were going to be high.
At Juventus, Pogba was a trophy-winning machine, having to his name four Serie A titles, two Coppa Italia titles and two Supercoppa Italiana titles. The lack of European success was his only weak spot in that regard. Since joining United, however, he's been restricted to a League Cup and a Europa League, which must feel like quite the stepdown (at least he's got a European trophy now, though probably not the one he wanted).
That's only counting club trophies, of course. His greatest achievement by far has to be his 2018 World Cup win for France; it's not as if he was a passenger either, being praised during the tournament for boosting France's midfield significantly. This, to me, shows that he can absolutely be motivated to win titles, but it doesn't seem to happening for him at United for whatever reason.
Juan Mata
The only David Moyes signing still at the club, Mata was signed from Chelsea in January 2014 for £37 million, which was a club record at the time. He had an illustrious career prior to joining United, and looking at his trophy cabinet, one could argue that he has effectively wasted his prime years at this club.
Even prior to joining Chelsea, he had won a Copa del Rey with Valencia and the 2010 World Cup with Spain. He then proceeded to win a Champions League, a Europa League and an FA Cup with Chelsea (as well as reaching the final of the FIFA Club World Cup), in addition to winning the 2012 European Championship with Spain. When United signed him at the age of 25, he had already won pretty much every major trophy barring a top-flight title and he hadn't even hit his prime, so the signing must have felt like an absolute steal.
Unfortunately, this is where Mata's success began to fade. At Manchester United, he has won a Europa League, an FA Cup, a League Cup and a Community Shield, but still no league title. At the age of 32, it seems unlikely that he'll win any more major trophies, which is a shame for a player who won so much at a tender age.
Jesse Lingard
Although he made several appearances as an unused sub under Fergie, Lingard didn't make his competitive debut for the club until the 2014-15 season under van Gaal (who loved to use youth players). How much has won, then? Not more than most other players, it should be said. None of his loan spells garnered him any trophies, but he has won the Europa League, the FA Cup, the League Cup and the Community Shield for Man United.
Fred
When United signed the Brazilian midfielder for £47 million from Shakhtar Donetsk on the 5th of June 2018, there were no doubt a few eyebrows raised. However, he has actually won a boatload of trophies at club level despite his lack of international success.
While at Internacional, Fred won the Campeonato Gaúcho (the top division of the Rio Grande do Sul regional leagues) twice and then proceeded to win three Ukrainian Premier League titles, three Ukrainian Cups and four Ukrainian Super Cups at Shakhtar Donetsk. That's actually not a bad trophy haul at all.
Bruno Fernandes
Ah, the Portuguese Magnifico himself; when United fans talk about the 'winning mentality', Bruno is often the first player that is pointed to as an example of a player who possesses this mentality. The question is, though, has Bruno actually won anything?
As a matter of fact, he has, but no league titles, unfortunately. While at Sporting, he has won a Taca de Portugal and two Taca da Liga titles, so a cup and two league cups. His most prestigious trophy is arguably the 2018-19 Nations League with Portugal, though time will tell if the Nations League successfully establishes itself as a premier competition. That being said, based solely on his trophy haul, there is little to suggest that Bruno has what it takes to win a league title (of course, anyone can see from his performances and demeanour on the pitch that he hates losing).
Nemanja Matic
The best Nemanja since Vidic, Matic has won a lot of trophies over his career. When he was first signed from Chelsea by Man United on the 31st of July 2017 for £40 million, he had already won the incredibly prestigious Slovak Cup with Kosice, before winning two Premier League titles, an FA Cup and a League Cup during his two stints at Chelsea as well as a Primeira Liga and a Taca de Liga with Benfica. At United, he has won...nothing. In fact, if you discount his season-long loan at Vitesse, this is so far the only club in which Matic hasn't won anything.
Donny van de Beek
For Ajax, DvdB won an Eredivisie title, a Dutch Cup and a Johan Cruyff Shield. He also reached a Nations League final with the Netherlands. Time will tell if he can add to his trophy cabinet at Manchester United.
Scott McTominay
McSauce came through the youth ranks, made his debut at the end of the 2016-17 season and has yet to win anything.
Andreas Pereira
Pereira made his senior debut in the 2015-16 season before being loaned to Granada, Valencia and now Lazio. He has yet to win anything at senior level.
Edinson Cavani
The signing of Cavani has divided opinion. Some feel that he'll be the next Bastian Schweinsteiger or Radamel Falcao, while others feel that he could be the next Zlatan Ibrahimovic. However, one thing that can't be denied is his massive trophy cabinet; whether a player who has achieved as much as he has is precisely what United needs is another matter.
The Uruguayan started his career by winning the Primera División with his boyhood club Danubio before winning a Coppa Italia with Napoli. However, it was at PSG where he really shone, winning six Ligue 1 titles, the Coupe de France four times, the Coupe de la Ligue five times and the Trophée des Champions four times. Yes, it's PSG and yes, he hasn't won any continental competitions, but he's still a proven winner. Add in the 2011 Copa América (which he won with Uruguay) and I don't think Man United have a more decorated player in their squad at the moment. The real question is whether Cavani is past it or whether he still possesses the class that he had in his prime.
Anthony Martial
On the 1st of September 2015, Manchester United famously threw £50 million down the drain to sign a 19-year-old Anthony Martial (who came from France) from AS Monaco. The English press declared that he had no chance; he went on to score 71 goals in 225 competitive games for United.
It should be said that Martial hadn't won anything when we signed him, but considering his age, that's forgivable. He has since won the FA Cup, the League Cup, the Community Shield and the Europa League, but still no Ballon d'Or. As for the French national team, Martial came close to winning Euro 2016 but he (and France) fell at the final hurdle, while he wasn't included in the squad for the 2018 World Cup.
Dr. Marcus Rashford MBE
The future Prime Minister and part-time Manchester United forward came through the academy ranks before making his debut under Louis van Gaal following an injury to Martial. Rashford during his time at Man United has won an FA Cup, a League Cup, a Community Shield, a Europa League, a Member of the Order of the British Empire and an honorary doctorate from the University of Manchester.
Mason Greenwood
The best finisher at the club since Robin van Persie, Greenwood also came through the academy ranks. Given his young age and lack of experience, he of course hasn't won anything yet.
Daniel James
The Welsh winger was Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's first signing as manager, being bought from Swansea City on the 6th of June 2019 for £15 million. Given his previous club (Swansea) and his national team (Wales), it's no surprise that he's yet to win anything.
Odion Ighalo
Unlike the rest of the players here, Ighalo was loaned to us in January 2020 from Shanghai Greenland Shenhua. He may won just the one trophy, but when that trophy is none other than the coveted Chinese FA Cup, you can already tell that he's a natural born winner (Chinese FA Cup-winning centre-forward, you'll never sing that!). He also came second place in the Championship with Watford, but second place is first place for losers, so that doesn't really matter.
Jadon Sancho
Bought on deadline day for £120 million, Sancho has won the DFL-Supercup with Borussia Dortmund.
...screw Ed Woodward. At least we have Facundo Pellistri, eh?
Conclusion
This whole thing is turning into a bit of a mess, so let's standardise it with some numerical values. Note that these are just arbitrary numbers that I've assigned for comparison purposes, so don't take them as gospel.
World Cup, confederation cup (e.g. Euros), Champions League, Copa Libertadores = 20 points
Top-flight title in 'Big Five' leagues = 16 points
Europa League, national cup competition in 'Big Five' leagues = 10 points
UEFA Nations League = 6 points
Other top-flight title = 5 points
Other national cup competition = 3 points
Other cup (e.g. league cups, super cups) = 1 point
With this system, here are all the current Man United players (min. 50 senior appearances) ranked by trophy haul.
Cavani: 180
Pogba: 117
Mata: 112
Matic: 52
De Gea: 51
Rojo: 47
Jones: 38
Fred: 33
Bailly: 32
Lindelof: 28
Romero: 28
Telles: 27
Lingard: 22
Martial: 22
Rashford: 22
Fosu-Mensah: 20
Fernandes: 11
Shaw: 11
Van de Beek: 9
Dalot: 5
Ighalo: 3
Maguire: 1
Tuanzebe: 1
Grant: 0
Greenwood: 0
Henderson: 0
James: 0
McTominay: 0
Pereira (both of them): 0
Wan-Bissaka: 0
Obviously, trophies aren't everything (I am not seriously suggesting that Phil Jones has a stronger mentality than Bruno Fernandes) but this might be interesting. For reference, here's the list for all of Man United's players who played in at least five league games in the 2012-13 season (our last league title) up to and including the beginning of that season (so trophies won after the start of the 2012-13 season, including the league title, aren't counted).
Ryan Giggs: 291\*
Paul Scholes: 244*
Rio Ferdinand: 113*+
Anderson: 111*
Nemanja Vidic: 108*
Michael Carrick: 98*+
Patrice Evra: 97*
Wayne Rooney: 95*
Nani: 83*
Shinji Kagawa: 62
Jonny Evans: 44*^
Chicharito: 42
Rafael: 41*
Antonio Valencia: 23
Robin van Persie: 21
Chris Smalling: 18
David de Gea: 12
Danny Welbeck: 9*
Anders Lindegaard: 4
Tom Cleverley: 2
Ashley Young: 2
Phil Jones: 1
*Player won the Club World Cup, which I've assigned 6 points
+Player won the Intertoto Cup, which I've assigned 3 points
^Player won the second division of a 'Big Five' league, which I've assigned 3 points
OK, firstly, jeez, calm down, Giggsy. Secondly, LOL at Anderson being ahead of Vidic, Carrick, Ferdinand, Evra and Rooney. Thirdly, that 2012-13 squad contained 10 players who had a score greater than 52 at the time (and of course, several of them saw a jump after the title win). The current squad has 3. Obviously, it's much easier when you've been winning titles left, right and centre for the past twenty years, but make no mistake: Fergie drilled his teams to win at all costs.
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PES 2021 Season Update - pre-release megathread
PES 2021 Season Update - pre-release megathread
Welcome to the pre-release megathread of the Pro Evolution Soccer 2021 Season Update! This megathread is created so all information can be found on one place. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them. If you have any updates, please let us know!
General Information Release Date: 15th September 2020
Platforms: PS4, XBOX One, PC
Pre order:
| Standard Edition | Club Edition |
| Where to buy? | Link (click on the top to switch platforms) | Link (click on the top to switch platforms & club editions) |
| Price | €29,99 ! | €34,99 ! |
| ! Save 20% on your pre-order by accessing the store page from the in-game link in PES 2020? The same discount is even available through PES 2020 LITE, which can be downloaded for free from the PlayStation™ Store or Microsoft Store. | ! Save 20% on your pre-order by accessing the store page from the in-game link in PES 2020? The same discount is even available through PES 2020 LITE, which can be downloaded for free from the PlayStation™ Store or Microsoft Store. |
| Purchase Bonus | | |
| 3x Contract renewal ticket | 10 weeks | 30 weeks |
| Premium Agent | 10 weeks | 30 weeks |
| MyClub coins | 2000 | 3000 |
| Pre-Order Bonus | | |
| L. Messi (loan) | ✔️ | ✔️ |
| Background Theme (PS4 only) | ✔️ | ✔️ |
| Veteran Bonus | | |
| PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent | 1-5 times, depending on milestones (see below) | 1-5 times, depending on milestones (see below) |
| PES 2020-21 Featured Players Special Agent | 1-3 times, depending on milestones (see below) | 1-3 times, depending on milestones (see below) |
| Club Edition Bonus | | |
| Full Squad | x | FC Barcelona, Bayern, Juventus, Manchester United, Arsenal * |
| Digital Kit | x | Retro kit * |
| Original In-Game Menu Theme | x | Stylize your in-game menus with an original design, themed after your favourite club * |
| PS4 Menu Theme and Avatar | x | An exclusive menu theme and avatar for use on PS4. * |
| Iconic Moment Series Player x1 | x | Icon version of: Messi, Kahn, C. Ronaldo, Beckham, Bergkamp * |
| | * corresponds to the club edition you buy |
Veteran Bonus information If you've played PES 2020 (Lite) you could have achieved milestones which grant you PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent and/or PES 2020-21 Featured Players Special Agent
- It is possible to earn rewards from Milestone 2 without completing Milestone 1 and vice versa. You may also earn rewards from both Milestones.
- You can only earn one reward from each set of tiers.
- The cutoff date for achieving Milestones is 00:00 on 03/09/2020 (UTC).
- Veteran's Bonus Distribution Period: 15/09/2020 00:00 - 10/12/2020 00:00 (UTC)
PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent Requirements | Milestones | Tiers | Rewards |
| Number of Iconic Moment Series and Legend Players owned. | 1 to 3 players | PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent ×1 |
| Number of Iconic Moment Series and Legend Players owned. | 4 to 6 players | PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent ×2 |
| Number of Iconic Moment Series and Legend Players owned. | 7 to 9 players | PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent ×3 |
| Number of Iconic Moment Series and Legend Players owned. | 10 to 12 players | PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent ×4 |
| Number of Iconic Moment Series and Legend Players owned. | 13 players or more | PES 2020-21 Iconic Moment Series Special Agent ×5 |
PES 2020-21 Featured Players Special Agent Requirements | Milestones | Tiers | Rewards |
| Number of matches played in Matchday mode. | 5 to 29 matches | PES 2020-21 Featured Players Special Agent ×1 |
| Number of matches played in Matchday mode. | 30 to 99 matches | PES 2020-21 Featured Players Special Agent ×2 |
| Number of matches played in Matchday mode. | 100 matches or more | PES 2020-21 Featured Players Special Agent ×3 |
Iconic Moment Players | Player | Match | |
| A. DEL PIERO | 22.05.1996 | |
| D. BECKHAM | 26.05.1999 | |
| D. BERGKAMP | 02.03.2002 | |
| F. BECKENBAUER | 14.04.1976 | |
| F. INZAGHI | 11.12.2002 | |
| F. RIJKAARD | 24.05.1989 | |
| FERNANDO TORRES | 05.02.2006 | |
| H. NAKATA | 06.05.2001 | |
| INIESTA | 06.05.2009 | |
| K. RUMMENIGGE | 13.06.1981 | |
| M. VAN BASTEN | 24.05.1989 | |
| P. NEDVĚD | 14.05.2003 | |
| P. VIEIRA | 08.04.2001 | |
| PUYOL | 17.05.2006 | |
| R. CARLOS | 15.05.2002 | |
| R. GULLIT | 24.05.1989 | |
+ more to add throughout the season
Licences from this page | Leagues | Licence Data Included At Launch (Before downloading the day one patch) | Licence Data Included in day one patch |
| English League | 2019-2020 Season | 2020-2021 Season |
| English 2nd Division | 2019-2020 Season | 2020-2021 Season |
| Spanish League | 2019-2020 Season | 2 |
| Spanish 2nd Division | 2019-2020 Season | 2 |
| Serie A TIM | 2019-2020 Season | 1 |
| Serie BKT | 2019-2020 Season | 2 |
| Ligue 1 Uber Eats | 2020-2021 Season | |
| Ligue 2 BKT | 2020-2021 Season | |
| Liga NOS | 2019-2020 Season | 2020-2021 Season |
| Süper Lig | 2019-2020 Season | 2 |
| Tinkoff Russian Premier Liga | 2019-2020 Season *Some updates planned for the 2020-2021 season. | 2020-2021 Season |
| Eredivisie | 2020-2021 Season | |
| Jupiler Pro League | 2019-2020 Season | 2 |
| 3F Superliga | 2019-2020 Season | 2020-2021 Season |
| Scottish Premiership | 2020-2021 Season | |
| Raiffeisen Super League | 2019-2020 Season | 2 |
| BRASILEIRÃO ASSAÍ 2020 | 2020 Season | |
| BRASILEIRÃO SÉRIE B 2020 | 2020 Season | |
| Liga Profesional de Fútbol | 2019-2020 Season | |
| Campeonato PlanVital | 2020 Season | |
| Liga BetPlay DIMAYOR | 2020 Season | |
| CFA Super League | 2019 Season | |
| TOYOTA Thai League | 2020 Season | |
- Serie A TIM data included in the day one patch will be from the 2019-2020 season. However, strips for some clubs will be from the 2020-2021 season.
- Data included for these clubs in the day one patch will be from the 2019-2020 season. However, the player roster and kits for all clubs will be from the 2020-2021 season.
The leagues listed below will not be available in League Mode, Master League or Become a Legend at launch. Teams belonging to these leagues will be temporarily filed under the "Other (Europe)" category in-game. Once their officially licensed data is implemented via a free day one patch, they will be moved to their appropriate categories.
- Jupiler Pro League (Belgian League)
- 3F Superliga (Danish League)
The following leagues will be updated to the 2020-2021 season via a Data Pack scheduled for release post-launch on October 22.
- Serie A TIM, Serie BKT (Italian League 1st and 2nd Divisions)
- Raiffeisen Super League (Swiss League)
- Jupiler Pro League (Belgian League)
- Süper Lig
- Spanish League
- Spanish 2nd Division
This game also comes with the AFC Champions League licence.
- The licensing agreement with both AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano is set to expire, and these clubs will not appear in the eFootball PES 2021 Season Update. This season, we encourage users to enjoy matches with MILANO RN and LOMBARDIA NA, two PES original clubs that feature players with real-names.
- Due to the ongoing impact of COVID-19, certain real-world football leagues and/or tournaments may undergo sudden regulation changes. As a result, there is a chance that in-game regulations may not perfectly match their real life counterparts. Other changes that impact leagues and tournaments may also be implemented in future updates without prior notice.
Master League Managers Three newly added managers to use as manager avatars in Master League:
- F. LAMPARD
- GUARDIOLA
- R. GIGGS
Relegated Players: Cheaper Transfer Options?
This post has nothing to do with various transfer rumours floating about, it's just a fun exercise in analysing players who could be available at knockdown prices from the 3 relegated clubs in the PL, with a couple from elsewhere in Europe. Let me know your thoughts on any of the below or any other options I chose not to discuss and how they might or might not fit into our squad.
Norwich City Norwich earned plaudits after gaining promotion with a team containing a few promising academy products. If those young players choose to continue their development at Norwich and they can keep the core of their team together they could do what Burnley have done in recent seasons by coming straight back up and securing some form of stability for a few seasons.
- Max Aarons – After a great season in the Championship, Aarons has the makings of a top PL full back. Still only 20 and will demand a big fee, Spurs and Bayern are among interested parties. Played in all but 2 of Norwich's PL games, registering 2 assists and creating 7 'big' chances in a team who only scored 26 goals. RB is a position that there has been some talk of creating depth and for this Aarons could be a solid signing, but he will want first team football and United may prefer to keep Dalot/TFM and hedge their bets on Ethan Laird's development or instead bring in more experienced cover.
- Ben Godfrey – CB is a position which has been highlighted as key for United to strengthen in this window. Jones, Rojo and Smalling look out the door while Bailly and Tuanzebe have had injury issues. Despite Norwich's woeful season, Ben Godfrey has came out with some credit. At 22 this campaign will have given him a good education in PL defending. Maguire, Robertson and Wan-Bissaka are good examples of how playing in a weaker team can aid a defender's development. Dortmund and Leipzig are among suitors with a reported asking price of £50m potentially ruling United out of the running.
- Jamal Lewis – An often underrated member of Norwich's squad this season, Lewis has had a solid if unspectacular campaign. Question marks as to whether his ceiling is higher than Brandon Williams, and once again he may prefer to stay at Norwich and start every week.
- Todd Cantwell – Registered 6 goals and 2 assists in a promising showing for the 22 year old. A big reported target for Spurs and Sheffield United with the ability to play on either flank as well as centrally. May not want to come to sit on the bench but could be a cut-price option to replace Lingard or Pereira.
Watford After reaching an FA Cup Final last season, only to be demolished 6-0 by Man City, Watford seem to have been scarred by the experience. An 8-0 loss at the Etihad in September was followed up by a 4-0 loss which set them up for relegation. A club with trigger happy owners, they have gone through 6 permanent managers during their 5 season stay in the Premier League.
- Gerard Deulofeu – A player who has shown flashes of brilliance during his time at Everton and Watford, Deulofeu is still only 26 and will be keen to make something of his career after a disappointing and short-lived return to Barcelona a few years ago. Had a great 2018-19 season chipping in with 10 goals and 5 assists. Scored 4 an assisted 5 this season but had his season ended by a ruptured ACL in Watford's 3-0 win over Liverpool. Like Cantwell, Deulofeu can play across the front line and offers something different to our other options. Talk of a move to AC Milan or Valencia is on the cards with an exit to Europe seeming more likely than a move to another PL club.
- Abdoulaye Doucouré – A standout performer for Watford in recent seasons, Doucouré was likened to Patrick Vieira as a young midfielder. Now at 27, it is clear that his ceiling is lower than that but he is still a tidy player and a solid midfield presence in the PL. Reported interest from PSG, United and Chelsea in the past year came to nothing, while a reported bid of £36m by Everton was rejected. Has spoken of his desire to play at a higher level and has stated that he wants to remain in the PL.
- Ismaila Sarr – The 22 year old showed promise in the second half the season before lockdown. Has been linked with a move to Liverpool while some Arsenal fans have been calling on their club to make a bid. Rated around £30m, a move seems pointless for United if they want to upgrade the Right Wing, with Greenwood and James providing equal or better options and Sancho being several levels above.
- Troy Deeney – Mr Watford. Deeney is a leader and while he just turned 32, he is keen to show that he still has something to offer at this level. Managed 10 goals this season but offers something more than goalscoring. Has a fascinating story and could be a real addition behind the scenes. A demanding player with lots of cojones, he may not have what it takes to be an option of the bench for United and isn't as polished in front of a camera as the PR folk would like. Deeney has been a rumoured target for Burnley and will hope to see out his twilight years by adding to his tally of 47 Premier League goals.
- Danny Welbeck – Scored 2 goals post-lockdown and managed an assist as Watford failed to beat the drop, DWelbz is a great option to bring in as a back-up striker. Imagine the hashtag #Welback and you will be surely sold on the return of the Manchester native and Red's academy product. Or not.
Bournemouth After failing to fix their defensive frailties, Bournemouth have instead blamed their relegation on Hawkeye not working in Sheffield United vs Aston Villa. Eddie Howe has earned plaudits for taking the club from League Two to the Premier League and surviving for 5 seasons with a smaller club with a small stadium and limited resources. Bournemouth have played some good football and earned some great results during their time in the PL, putting up the best fight to beat the drop post-lockdown of the 3 relegated clubs.
- Ryan Fraser – Fraser left the club as a free agent, after heavy interest from Arsenal last season did not materialise into a move. He rejected a short term extension and seems keen to kick on. The Arsenal interest seems to have distracted him with this season with 7 goals and 14 assists in 2018-19 dropping to 1 goal and 4 assists this term. Can play on either wing but prefers the left. Interest from Arsenal and Liverpool appears to have dropped off along with his form. A move to Crystal Palace seems likely, especially if Zaha leaves.
- Nathan Aké – After Ole chatted with Aké on the pitch after United's win against Bournemouth last month, the rumour mill has started churning. As mentioned previously, CB is a position United need to build depth and he 25 year old will be keen to remain in one of Europe's top 5 leagues with Euro 2021 on the horizon. Nathan Aké appears to be a more realistic target for United, with City and Chelsea also hovering. The defender is reported to not have a relegation clause reducing his wages so Bournemouth may need to let him go to balance the books, especially given the financial pressures created by Coronavirus. A player with some potential to still reach and proven PL experience, Aké is quick and agile which has been touted as a good match for Maguire's qualities.
- David Brooks – Brooks has emerged as another target for Spurs. After a great first season in the PL, Brooks missed most of this season due to injury and Bournemouth missed his creativity and ability to find space. The player has just turned 23 and could prove a good replacement for Lingard or Pereira, if other targets prove too expensive or aren't available.
- Josh King – United wanted King in January but were put off by Bournemouth's reported £30m price tag. King managed 2 appearances during his time at United, neither in the PL and was reportedly devastated when the January move fell through. At 28 he does not fit the brief of young promising talent, but his flexibility, proven PL quality and being an academy product may count in his favour. Has spent the same amount of time in the PL as Anthony Martial, scoring 48 goals and providing 15 assists in 161 games compared to Martial's 51 goals and 25 assists in 145 games. King could well make the move to United this summer and at a fee significantly less than the £30m demanded by Bournemouth in January.
- Callum Wilson – Wilson has been Bournemouth's true success story in the PL, scoring more goals each year until last season's total of 14 dropped to a disappointing 7 this time around. At 28 he is once again a target for Spurs with the current fee being reported at around £10m. As a backup striker, he might prove a cheaper option than keeping Ighalo but may wish to move to a club where he can play more minutes and find a way into the England squad for Euro 2021.
Other players from relegated clubs in Europe - Marc Roca (Espanyol) – Linked with a €15m move to AC Milan and rumoured interest from Real Madrid and Arsenal with previous interest from Bayern. Standing over 6ft, the 23 year old may have been a decent long-term replacement for Matic. Solid defensively and a good passing range, he seems the kind of player who United have craved in recent seasons to release Pogba forwards as well as having the ability to launch accurate long balls to United's pacy forwards which would prove especially useful on counterattacks.
- Sandro Tonali (Brescia) – Serie A still has 2 rounds left to play, but Brescia are already confirmed as going down. Tonali has been a bright light for Brescia this season, providing 7 assists from a deep midfield role as well as making 3 appearances for Italy. The 20 year old is a physical presence in midfield and his ability to read to game has drawn comparisons with the great Andrea Pirlo and spiked interest from Serie A's big guns. AC & Inter appear set to battle it out for his signature in deals around €30-40m while Tonali has also been linked with Juventus and Liverpool where he would certainly be a great long-term upgrade on Jordan Henderson. As with most wonderkids, there have also been various reports of interest from pretty much every major European club, including United.
Leicester City vs Chelsea
The home side enjoys another excellent campaign, and they sit on the 2nd spot, being only two points behind Manchester United. The Foxes haven’t lost six times in a row in all competitions, although they had a pretty tough schedule. After securing a place in the next round of the FA Cup with a convincing 4:0 victory away to Stoke, Leicester City booked an important win against Southampton at King Power Stadium last weekend. Even though they haven’t been confident at the home ground this season, Brendan Rodgers’s side puts excellent performances on the road. Jamie Vardy keeps being very productive in front of the oppositions’ net as he scored 11 times in 17 appearances this season. Leicester might improve their defending overall, and they are on a good track as the hosts kept the clean sheet in their last two fixtures. If they manage to keep up the form, the home side could continue the title race.
On the other hand, Chelsea booked only two wins in the last five rounds, and the away side slipped to 7th place. The Blues looked like title contenders at the start of the campaign, but they simply haven’t shown enough against the league’s top sides. Frank Lampard didn’t want to gable against minnows Morecambe in the FA Cup, and they secured a 4:0 victory, but they struggled against ten-men Fulham on Saturday. The visitors need to improve their defense as they spilled too many points, both at home and on the road. Tammy Abraham and the lads are doing well in the final third, but Chelsea needs to be more creative in the middle of the park. After three straight defeats away from home, the visitors picked up all three points, but another tough challenge expects them on the road. If they get back home with all three points from this one, Chelsea could get closer to the Champions League spots.
Full-Time Winner Odds & Prediction
Head-to-head clashes between these two teams have been very tight lately. This one shouldn’t be much different, and we wouldn’t be surprised if it ends in a draw.
Goals Market Prediction
Both teams are doing well in the front and possess great attacking potential. We believe nets won’t remain still in this game, and we should see both sides scoring at least once.
Draw @ 3.50 BTTS Yes @ 1.65 Correct score 1:1 @ 7.00 Read the analysis here and share your opinion with us! The Texans don’t have a winning culture - and it starts at the top of the organization
The Texans are like my favorite soccer club right now, which is Manchester United. Nothing will change until ownership sells the team and the current coach/manager is fired. You can change players all you want, but if you don’t have a winning culture it doesn’t matter.
If you put only the Browns roster in New England and call them the Patriots I bet they’d win the division and make it to the AFC championship because of the culture there. New England has built a winning culture over the years and having an owner like Robert Kraft helps that. However, Cleveland has had a losing culture for 20 years and their ownership is bottom of the league.
As the title says, it starts at the top of the organization. The McNair family is complacent as long as Houstonians are filling seats, tailgating, and watching the games. If you really want to see a change with the Texans, pressure them to sell the team or get serious and change their philosophy on being owners of a football team.
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OC: Serie A's Last Outsiders #1: Hellas Verona 1984/1985
With the 2020-2021 Serie A underway, there is a general sense of uncertainty about a league that has fallen from the heights of its glory in the 1990s. Juventus are looking to make it an even 10 Scudetti in a row, yet with a new, untested manager in Andrea Pirlo, a new midfield, and arguably less star quality than they have had since their unbeaten title in 2011-2012 they are facing more questions about their ability to sustain a title challenge while also competing in a European front.
Most of these questions are coming from a chasing pack that collectively looks much stronger than any top-flight season Italy has seen in the last decade. While standout individual squads such as Maurizio Sarri’s 2017-2018 Napoli have blooded the champions before, the last several years in Italian football have allowed several teams to plan on dethroning Juventus, and this season Lazio, Milan, and Inter will relish the chance to ruin Juve’s 10th.
But the sternest challenge might come from a Lombardy team that has never won major honors since 1963, when they were crowned Coppa Italia champions. Atalanta capped off a second season in 2019-20 with another Champions League place, their best European finish since 1991, and most importantly without selling any of their key players, with the only departures being the backup wing-back
Timothy Castagne and the teenage winger
Amad Traore.
Should Atalanta capture a miracle first ever Scudetto, they would become the first “new” title-winners since Sampdoria in 1991, a gap of 29 years. But Samp themselves didn’t have to wait that long to break an existing hegemony. Their debut title was preceded by only four years, when Napoli captured their first Scudetto in 1987, and two years earlier than that, Hellas Verona won their only title in 1985.
And that’s where we find ourselves today, exploring the unheralded Verona side of 1984/1985.
1985: Something is rotten in the state of fair Verona… Or so the competing clubs in Italy thought at the end of the 1984/1985 season. In a league full of talented stars such as Michel Platini and Alessandro Altobelli, the Scudetto traveled the banks of the Adige to Julius Caesar’s favorite vacation spot.
The context of the league at the time adds some further spice to this particular shock. In 1980, the scandal of Totonero broke; Italian internationals such as Enrico Albertosi were found to have placed bets on teams in a complex web of movements revolving around a Roman restaurant. Totonero could be a book on its own, or perhaps a good documentary, but its most relevant consequence were the attempted reforms to the system of Italian referee selection throughout the following decade. In 1984/1985, instead of relying on the traditional designatori arbitrali, the referee assignment council, the Italian league decided to randomly draw referees, allowing no one knowledge of who was going to referee their games.
Furthermore, in January of 1984, the Italian league decided to enforce a three-season ban on signing foreign players for all teams except those newly promoted: Atalanta, Como and Cremonese. Therefore, the cream of Italy’s crop decided to invest big on foreign players already in Italy and elsewhere across the world.
La Stampa's headline 29 June 1984: Foreigners, a summer of negotiations, and then the blockade Big names were moving: the Scot Graeme Souness, back when Pogba didn’t exist to hate, headed to Sampdoria from Liverpool, the German Karl-Heinz Rummenigge joined Inter from Bayern Munich, and across town in Milan, the English duo of Mark Hateley and Ray Wilkins moved to the red half of the San Siro from Portsmouth and Manchester United respectively. The third Brazilian midfield magician of 1982, Socrates, joined Fiorentina, while his teammate Junior signed for Torino. Oh, and Napoli signed some angry midget from Barcelona - we’ll get to him in a minute.
Verona made moves with the rest of them. It would be wrong to call them an untalented squad - their coach,
Osvaldo Bagnoli, brought them to a fourth-place finish and a Coppa Italia final in 1982-1983, although Juventus triumphed over them across two legs. They already had the creative attacker
Pietro Fanna and the midfield playmaker
Antonio Di Gennaro, spearheaded by the speedy
Giuseppe Galderisi. But they had very little pedigree in Italian football, with their main contribution being a Coppa final in 1976 where they lost to Napoli. Consequently, their signings weren’t on the same level as their competition, investing in the long-jumper-turned-left-back
Hans-Peter Briegel of Kaiserslautern and the Danish playboy
Preben Elkjær from Lokeren, following his performances at Euro 1984.
The Gialloblu hit the ground running, going 14 matches unbeaten until falling to an Angelo Colombo goal away to Avellino. That brief wobble allowed Inter, one of the two closest challengers, to briefly hold the top spot - until a draw in Verona set Bagnoli’s side back on top. Not even a further defeat to the other challengers Torino could knock Verona from their perch, as they sealed their first ever Scudetto in the following weeks with a draw against none other than Atalanta.
Analysis Sadly, I was only able to find one full match of this historic Verona team, in their opening day victory over Napoli. While obviously there are going to be distinct differences between today’s football and that of the 1980s, there are some interesting patterns that we can see in Verona’s play, some that actually continue to manifest to this day. You can watch the complete match
here. Here are four takeaways:
1) The Genius of Di Gennaro Taking the #10 shirt at a historic Italian club like Fiorentina is never easy. Especially when the current holder of that shirt is Fiorentina icon and World Cup winner Giancarlo Antognoni. That’s why Antonio Di Gennaro, who could never fit into a midfield featuring Antognoni, swapped purple for the yellow and blue of Verona, and a more comfortable #10.
As was common for playmakers in those days, Di Gennaro looks remarkably undisciplined in a positional sense; floating from wing to wing, dropping deeper than the center backs, and charging forward into space to support the attack. However, throughout the Napoli game, the Florentine showed his preference to begin his attacks from deeper in midfield, in contrast to his opposite number Diego Maradona, who tended to stay in his team’s attacking half. Di Gennaro also pitched in defensively, making interceptions and tackles to spark quick counterattacks led by the likes of Luciano Marangon, Pietro Fanna, and Luciano Bruni. When Napoli attempted to press him higher in the second half, Di Gennaro countered by playing the fast forwards Giuseppe Galderisi and Pietro Fanna into space with some delicious long passes.
His tendency to play deeper also opened up space ahead of him for Fanna to operate as an advanced creative midfielder, while Bruni and Hans-Peter Briegel also surged into the open areas in the Verona attacking third. That didn’t stop Di Gennaro from doing plenty of attacking himself - the move that resulted in Giuseppe Galderisi’s goal was started and assisted by Verona’s #10, and
he added a third goal from a Fanna free-kick. Oh, and most importantly...
he had some silky skills 2) All-Action Briegel In another universe, Hans-Peter Briegel is a decorated member of Germany’s Olympics athletics team. In this one however, the Rodendach native left the long jump behind to become a defensive midfielder and left back, initially at Kaiserslautern before making the jump to Verona. The summer signing made an immediate impact at both ends of the pitch against Napoli.
Briegel, was given freedom to rampage forward from his midfield position, and was a beneficiary of the passes from Di Gennaro and Fanna. The corner that led to his opening goal came from
a lung-bursting run through the center and a slick through ball for Fanna, who returned the favor moments later with
an inch-perfect cross.
Perhaps as important as his goal, however, was
his man-marking of Maradona. Bagnoli was no stranger to the threat that the Argentine possessed, so whenever Napoli was in possession, their star signing found himself
bullied off the ball by Briegel’s relentless marking. Napoli found themselves forced to go long or to the flanks rather than make their play through Maradona. In the second half, Maradona was able to buy himself more time on the ball by dropping deeper to pick it up, but it greatly reduced his goal threat and saw him resort to set-pieces to chip away at the Venetians.
Briegel’s brilliant form saw him end as Verona’s 2nd-top scorer with 11 goals in all competitions, behind the duo of Galderisi and Elkjær. Sadly, there are no statistics for how many other playmakers “the Rhineland steamroller” flattened en route to his winner’s medal.
3) The Best Defenders can be Great Attackers While the back five or back three formations are fairly common throughout Italian football history, Bagnoli’s Verona brought an interesting twist to the position by having his nominal outside center-backs,
Luciano Marangon and
Roberto Tricella move forwards into attacking positions, while the wide players Domenico Volpati and Pietro Fanna moved inside. In a rather modern take on the wing-back positions, Bagnoli had Fanna stay forwards to serve as a creative influence in the final third, while Volpati tucked in to become another defensive midfielder, protecting the remaining center back Mauro Ferroni and supporting the midfielders Di Gennaro, Briegel and Bruni when they moved forwards.
Marangon, naturally a left-back,
pushed particularly up high to support the left-sided striker Elkjær when he moved inside. While he did not make a contribution to the goals or assists against Napoli, he would net two goals during the season. Tricella was less of an attacking influence, mainly due to the presence of Fanna ahead of him, but similarly to modern day center-backs,
was tasked with carrying the ball out of defense, or playing
long passes upfield when necessary.
4) The Midget and the Mad Mayor of Verona: Galderisi and Elkjær Standing at roughly five-foot seven-inches, or about one Alexis Sanchez, the then-21-year-old Giuseppe Galderisi did not immediately appear to be in the mold of some of his contemporary forwards, such as Mark Hateley or Alessandro Altobelli. But for Verona, he was more than enough to lead the attack.
During the early phases of the Napoli game, as both teams probe each other’s weaknesses, Galderisi doesn’t have much to feed on. Consequently, he drops a little deeper than normal to pick up the ball and attempt to win a foul. Galderisi also pops up on the right flank,
where he helps support Briegel, Bruni and Fanna in their attempts to combine. His scrappiness off the ball leads to Verona’s 2nd goal; after a slick move by Di Gennaro,
Galderisi is perfectly timed to smash home the rebound.
Galderisi’s strike partner Elkjær was another who didn’t mind a scrap; while he tended to stay higher up than the diminutive #9, the two would combine to hound defenders out of possession and limit the buildup, as demonstrated
here. While Galderisi dropped out of the box to hunt for the ball, Elkjær would move into the penalty area, and several times both Galderisi and Fanna
narrowly missed serving the perfect cross to the big man’s head. While he would fire a blank against Napoli, the Dane would equal Galderisi’s 13 goals across all competitions, and his performances would see him nominated for the 1984 and 1985 Ballon D’Or, where he finished third and second respectively, losing out to Juventus’ Michel Platini.
While Galderisi’s stay at Verona wouldn’t last long, Elkjær would remain in Veneto until the tail end of his career. The chainsmoking Dane is still an incredibly popular figure in the city, even receiving votes in mayoral elections to this day.
The Aftermath Verona’s story following their fairytale title might have come from a Shakespearean tragedy, with several of their best players leaving and the club returning to its yo-yo status within the decade. Attackers Pietro Fanna and Giuseppe Galderisi departed for Inter in 1985 and Milan in 1986 respectively, but neither could recapture their Gialloblu form. World Cup winner Paolo Rossi did replace them in 1986/1987 as the club managed to gain a fourth-place finish and UEFA Cup qualification, and Bagnoli stuck around to guide them to a quarterfinal finish in the tournament. From there, however, it was only downhill; finishes of 10th, 11th and 16th in 1990 condemned Verona to relegation.
Perhaps the bitterest pill to swallow after tasting victory was the resurgence of the referee selection commission. The random ballot for the 1984/1985 season was swiftly shelved, and various systems that allowed the biggest teams influence over referee selection returned. Historian John Foot notes that some clubs recognized Verona’s victory as a threat to their order; their “psychological power” was reduced by the free draw. And while this particular incident was not of an Italian making, Verona’s European Cup adventure in 1985/1986 was ended by Juventus, and the Gialloblu bitterly suspected the French referee of aiding their downfall.
After financial difficulties forced a temporary rebrand to simply Verona, the club regained their name and Serie A continuity in 1999, but disaster was only three seasons away. Hellas Verona slipped back into Serie B in 2002, and would spend most of the early 2000s bouncing between Serie B and Serie C1. Finally, in 2013, they tasted top-flight football - temporarily. A further two promotions were needed until the Gialloblu could cling on to the top-division spot they now hold.
Osvaldo Bagnoli, meanwhile, headed to Liguria to join Genoa after Verona’s 1990 relegation. He once again achieved UEFA Cup qualification with an unheralded squad. More financial troubles finally saw him arrive at his hometown to coach Inter Milan, but sadly his magic touch deserted him in the face of conflicts with Dennis Bergkamp, and he retired at the relatively early age of 59.
Thanks all for reading my work! Stay tuned for the next entry in this series, featuring a very familiar shaggy-haired Argentine...
Manchester United vs West Ham
The home side missed the chance to beat Everton last weekend and keep up the pace in the title race. However, Dominic Calvert-Lewin equalized in the stoppage time and brought the Toffees a point. Manchester United is now five points behind Manchester City, and they need another winning streak to reach the top. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s side needs to show its character now, as West Ham will search for a surprise. The Red Devils were perfect against Southampton, and they need to continue in the same fashion. United managed to eliminate Liverpool in the previous round, and they will attack the trophy this season. However, Marcus Rashford and the lads should be consistent if they want to remain in the race to win both competitions.
West Ham enjoys a great run in the Premier League, which launched them to the 6th spot. They were in relegation trouble recently, but five wins in seven rounds brought them to the continental battle. Tomas Soucek and the lads improved their finishing significantly while their defense tightened up. The Hammers are playing very well on the road, where they haven’t lost five times in a row. David Moyes’s side celebrated six times in 11 outings, and they want to keep up the pace. In the current FA Cup campaign, West Ham didn’t have a tough job. They eliminated Stockport and Doncaster, but this will be their biggest challenge so far.
Full-Time Winner Odds & Prediction
It is going to be a very exciting clash, as both sides have the chance to progress to the quarter-finals. However, we believe Manchester United will celebrate in this game and continue their FA Cup campaign.
Goals Market Prediction
Both sides have been pretty efficient lately, and we expect them to continue in the same fashion. Therefore, the nets won’t remain still in this clash.
Manchester United to win @ 1.65 BTTS Yes @ 1.60 Correct score 2:1 @ 8.50 Read the analysis here and share your opinion with us! Manchester United vs Aston Villa
After a very poor start of the season, very few people believed Manchester United could even get into the top four. However, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s side entered a streak that launched them right behind Liverpool. The Red Devils are just two points behind their fiercest rivals, thanks to nine matches in which they missed the chance to win only twice. Although the hosts failed to secure a place in the Champions League knockout stage, they can fully focus on the title race instead. Bruno Fernandes and the lads have shown a strong mentality since they trailed in several matches but managed to end up as winners eventually. It seemed that Wolves would remain undefeated at Old Trafford last Tuesday, but Marcus Rashford’s injury-time goal brought them an important victory. Manchester United had a very poor record at Theather of Dreams, but they managed to improve and get ten points from the last four games at the home ground. They need to be consistent to remain in the title battle.
Aston Villa barely survived last season, and they were projected to fight against the relegation once again. However, they are enjoying an excellent campaign and sit in fifth place, being three points behind Everton and Leicester City, but with a game in hand. The visitors entered a five-match unbeatable run, during which they celebrated three times. Dean Smith’s side is one of the best defensive teams in the league, having conceded only 14 goals. On the other hand, Jack Grealish and the lads scored twice more and managed to find the back of the net eight out of the last nine games. The Villans are the third-best visiting team, as they suffered just one defeat from seven outings. In addition, they recorded only one draw and managed to get back home with all three points on five occasions. The away side hopes they can continue the unbeatable run at the Red Devils’ expense.
Full-Time Winner Odds & Prediction
We expect to see a very exciting clash as both teams should search for a win. However, we find the hosts being slight favorites, and they should pick up all three points from this game.
Goals Market Prediction
Six out of their last seven clashes at Old Trafford went over a 2.5 margin. We expect to see another interesting display from both sides, and at least three goals in total.
Manchester United to win @ 1.75 Over 2.5 FT @ 1.55 Correct score 2:1 @ 9.50 Read the analysis here and share your opinion with us! Manchester United vs Everton
After two rounds from which they picked up only a point, Manchester United got back on the winning track with style. They booked an astonishing 9:0 victory over Southampton last Tuesday and remained three points behind Manchester City. That one made Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s side the most efficient team in the Premier League. However, Marcus Rashford and the lads need to continue in the same fashion and hope for their rivals to slump at the same time. The Red Devils had a terrible start to the campaign, especially when playing at Old Trafford. Nevertheless, they managed to improve home displays, and Manchester United booked four wins in the previous five games at their ground. The hosts need to be on their top-level in February since great challenges expect them starting from March.
Everton sits in 7th place, but the visitors don’t give up on the Champions League spot battle. They are only four points behind fourth-placed Liverpool, with two games in hand. Carlo Ancelotti’s side has been in a variable form lately as they booked two wins and lost twice in the previous five rounds. Dominic Calvert-Lewin and the lads are doing a very good job in the front. On the other hand, although the defense has been decent, the away side didn’t manage to keep the clean sheet on the past five occasions. Everton puts excellent performances on the road, and they won four times in a row at the away grounds. Seven wins from ten outings is a fantastic record, and the visitors hope of extending it.
Full-Time Winner Odds & Prediction
It is going to be an exciting clash as both sides have the chance to get some points from it. However, the hosts are full of confidence after their remarkable victory in the latest round, and they will take all three points.
Goals Market Prediction
Manchester United has been involved in many efficient matches at Old Trafford this season. We expect to see another exciting display, and the game should go over a 2.5 margin.
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